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  1. MacMace

    Ultimate Glory 2023 Trade speculation and Shinbeggars discussion

    I agree. As this is a hypothetical, I wonder what North would give up for pick one? Could we trade pick 4 our future 1st and Brockman to WC for pick 1, then trade pick 1 to North for pick 2, 14 and 19. We could then trade 14 and 19 to move up to 5 or 6. WC get pick 4, our future 1st and...
  2. MacMace

    News Hawthorn Racism Review - No player name speculation - opposition posters tread very carefully

    Interesting foreward in Mitch's book written by Clarkson - " 'Forged by adversity’ was a term we had used at the Hawthorn Football Club to reflect the sacrifice and discipline required to be elite in a chosen field. Coined as a key point of reference for those in the US Navy SEALs, it involved...
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    Welcome Kyle Hartigan joins the Hawks in a trade from the Crows

    Based on the stats he's a better pick up than Chip or Frost. I say good move and good luck to him. On SM-G960F using BigFooty.com mobile app
  4. MacMace

    Welcome Kyle Hartigan joins the Hawks in a trade from the Crows

    Sorry, Frost career stats. On SM-G960F using BigFooty.com mobile app
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    Welcome Kyle Hartigan joins the Hawks in a trade from the Crows

    Hartigan On SM-G960F using BigFooty.com mobile app
  6. MacMace

    Hawthorn’s 2019 Trade/FA - Targets/Incoming players discussion only

    While I don't believe this rumour to be true and I'm not that keen on a return for Buddy. Couldn't we come to an agreement where we renegotiate Buddy's salary to a more reasonable level, and Sydney agree to pay a proportion of this. The end result may cost Bud a few dollars, but would save the...
  7. MacMace

    No Oppo Supporters General AFL and other clubs discussion thread. **Opposition fans not welcome** Part 4

    Exactly what I thought when I read the article. To be honest, out of the 10 you picked I'm only genuinely worried about 6. On [device_name] using BigFooty.com mobile app
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    List Mgmt. Hawthorn 2018 Trade discussion NO OPPOSITION SUPPORTERS Part 3

    Completely unrealistic, but could you imagine the melts if we lock away Chad tomorrow morning, then swoop in at the last minute with one of our firsts and a player/combo of players for Shiel. That would be priceless. On [device_name] using BigFooty.com mobile app
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    List Mgmt. Hawthorn 2018 Trade discussion NO OPPOSITION SUPPORTERS Part 3

    No dramas mate, that was pointed out a few pages back and I apologised to you, but not the original poster. [emoji6] On [device_name] using BigFooty.com mobile app
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    List Mgmt. Hawthorn 2018 Trade discussion NO OPPOSITION SUPPORTERS Part 3

    Thanks mate, apologies, I didn't realise. No apologies to the original cockspank that posted it though! On [device_name] using BigFooty.com mobile app
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    List Mgmt. Hawthorn 2018 Trade discussion NO OPPOSITION SUPPORTERS Part 3

    Mate, the guy is on his last legs, we are helping GWS out, hopefully they can now retain Shiel. By the way, how about you **** off to whatever hole you climbed out of, you're on our board pal. On [device_name] using BigFooty.com mobile app
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    List Mgmt. Hawthorn 2018 Trade discussion NO OPPOSITION SUPPORTERS Part 3

    If GC trade Hall for a round 4 pick, there is no way we should pay anything more for Scrimshaw. On [device_name] using BigFooty.com mobile app
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    List Mgmt. Hawthorn 2018 Trade discussion NO OPPOSITION SUPPORTERS Part 3

    Big Boy will be 30 in July next year, he has had arguably the best two seasons of his career, had he not busted his cheek he would have most likely finished in the top three at the best and fairst again. I would hate to see him leave, but he is worth a lot to the right club. On [device_name]...
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    List Mgmt. Hawthorn 2018 Trade discussion NO OPPOSITION SUPPORTERS Part 3

    HV I appreciate all the inside intel you have been posting re Burton, thanks. That said I hope the club has been respectful in their dealings with him, and framed the question more around 'would you have any interest in returning home to play for Port' rather than 'we are trading you to Port...
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    Should all player contracts be made public?

    I think members are in the same league as shareholders, they pay their membership to buy into the club. I absolutely believe that the club has an obligation to be open and transparent with members. I don't buy into providing names of players along with their salaries, but a breakdown if the...
  16. MacMace

    Welcome to Hawthorn Pick 19: Ryan Burton

    You seem to have a but if inside knowledge Ched, please feel free to share. On [device_name] using BigFooty.com mobile app
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    Should all player contracts be made public?

    They could make their caps public by reporting on player payscales e.g. 2 players $1m to 1.5m, 5 players $750k to $1m, etc. On [device_name] using BigFooty.com mobile app
  18. MacMace

    List Mgmt. Hawthorn 2018 Trade discussion NO OPPOSITION SUPPORTERS Part 3

    If we pick up Scully for pick 53 can you imagine the melts. Clearly high risk/high reward, but the beauty of him being traded means that if he does break down we can delist or he can retire and his salary will be cleared from our cap, unlike a free agent. On [device_name] using BigFooty.com...
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    List Mgmt. Hawthorn 2018 Trade discussion NO OPPOSITION SUPPORTERS Part 3

    You're right, but I hope we all hear more once he signs on the dotted line. On [device_name] using BigFooty.com mobile app
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    List Mgmt. Hawthorn 2018 Trade discussion NO OPPOSITION SUPPORTERS Part 3

    Agreed, the only players I can think of is Gibbs (we all know how that turned out) and Marc Murphy. On [device_name] using BigFooty.com mobile app
  21. MacMace

    List Mgmt. Hawthorn 2018 Trade discussion NO OPPOSITION SUPPORTERS Part 3

    I here what you're saying, but if Chad says he will only entertain a trade to the Hawks they're stuffed. Lets be honest, if there is no love lost between Chad and PAFC, he may actually get some enjoyment out of screwing them over. On [device_name] using BigFooty.com mobile app
  22. MacMace

    List Mgmt. Hawthorn 2018 Trade discussion NO OPPOSITION SUPPORTERS Part 3

    Surely Port would only secure an end of first round compo pick for Chad if he leaves next year. Pick 15 in a super draft or pick 19 or 20 next year in a business as usual daft. Throwing in a couple of fringe players and that should get the job done. If not we pick him up next year for nothing...
  23. MacMace

    Prediction Hypothetical trades, other clubs moves, draft smokies, salary guesswork and whatever else thread

    I've been thinking the same thing. I wouldn't be gutted if we traded Burt (provided he was happy to be traded) to secure a higher draft pick in a good draft. I just think pick 15 and Burt is way over for the Chad. On [device_name] using BigFooty.com mobile app
  24. MacMace

    List Mgmt. Hawthorn Trade and FA news discussion NO OPPOSITION SUPPORTERS

    So let me get this straight, Burton is a campaigner that no one likes, but we bestowed him with the prized #5 guernsey, ok, makes sense. I really want the Chad in brown and gold, but if the trade is for our number 1 this year and Burton he can stay until next year and we can get him for free...
  25. MacMace

    The anti popular cult

    In addition to the above, I here Sydney and Geelong are still destination clubs, unlike us. On [device_name] using BigFooty.com mobile app
  26. MacMace

    The anti popular cult

    Of course we were lucky, everyone knows that Geelong and Sydney have been far superior sides over the last decade. On [device_name] using BigFooty.com mobile app
  27. MacMace

    The anti popular cult

    I'm sorry, you must have accidentally entered this thread. Popular (some may say reasoned) opinions are not welcome or tolerated here. This thread is for anti-popular discussions only. In answer to your question, I wish we could find three players worthy of splurging 50% of the cap on. We...
  28. MacMace

    The anti popular cult

    **** our team culture. If we cant spend at least 50% of our cap on 4 to 5 of the most elite of elite players we aren't trying hard enough. Lets get it done. If our players aren't happy taking modest (ok substantial) haircuts for team success they can **** off. That's the future of our list...
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    Prediction Hypothetical trades, other clubs moves, draft smokies, salary guesswork and whatever else thread

    GWS have a lot of free agents next year. If Cogs told them he is leaving, I wonder if they would consider a trade for this year and next years first as well as Cegs. On [device_name] using BigFooty.com mobile app
  30. MacMace

    List Mgmt. Hawthorn Trade and FA news discussion NO OPPOSITION SUPPORTERS

    Out of interest where do the Trade Talk articles come from on our site, I can't find them on the AFL site. If they are generated by Hawthorn it's interesting how bullish they have been quoting external reports that Chad will likely nominate us today and including Chad as the main pic for todays...
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