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That would be a very good deal for us. Dockers may prefer to give 8 instead of 12+15 in return for baker + 28. If it ended up being a straight swap for 12 I think we should be fairly happy with that though.

I doubt it would happen too, but it is pretty similar to what we did with GWS for taranto and hopper (although perhaps freo would consider it a cautionary tale). Given where we're at we have to consider all options and there would certainly be positives in terms of bringing in young talent, but...

That is true although we did pick up most of our top guys before the expansion teams came in from 2006-09 (Jack, cotch, dusty, rance, grimes, edwards). Could be a similar situation now where we hit the draft hard in the next couple years before tassie joins

I wouldn't be surprised at all, to be honest I'd be more surprised if he went to a club like the gold coast. He did have a good relationship with Dimma it seemed but by the time he left it looks like a lot of those relationships were fairly frayed so there's no guarantee that the relationship is...

Overall a really gutsy performance which made for a great evening at the footy which I was pretty worried about after last week. Injuries and umps made it pretty tough for us but we could have pinched it at the end. Probably the most promising thing for me is that there is a lot of improvement...

Good players on that list but Taranto should really be 3 or 4

You would think that has to be the case, but from an outsider I just can't wrap my head around why you're not targeting a KPF in this draft? You seem to have heaps of talented mids even with JHF leaving but very light on KPPs, especially forward now that you got logue

Really don't like this for North. I understand not holding JHF, but their list is crying out for a key fwd and they have too many top 10 mids to fit in the team. They get the number 1 pick and they pass up a chance to get a gun forward for pick 3 and a future first from port (which likely won't...

Probably not that much but for the life of me I can't understand why they're not at least getting a late first. Surely the fact that half of Melbourne was falling over themselves trying to secure the deal should show that Bowes + 7 for a nothing pick is way too good of a deal

Not sure he's the profile you'd be after anyway? If it were a salary dump like bowes then absolutely but otherwise I'd think you're more focused on youth for the next year or two

I dunno I'm starting to get the sense that it's not a lock that this gets done. hope I'm wrong though

that's a good point which I hadn't considered. On the other hand, the way these long contracts work is that usually you're underpaying the player for the first few years and overpaying for the last few years. If a new Tassie team wanted to take a player who was towards the end of their contract...

Every time I look at rabbles like North (not entirely their fault) and the druggos (entirely their fault) I just feel more and more grateful to support a club like Richmond

I still think there's benefit in persisting with him, it would cost us virtually nothing to keep him so it would be worth it for the chance he comes good. Having said that, if we get taranto and hopper and an essendon or something comes to him and says you'll start most weeks I think it would be...

The Logue link was a strange one, I really rate him as a defender but I can't believe we'd be that confident in gibcus working forward that we'd bring him in? Also no idea how we'd get the deal done, but it is reassuring at least to see how confident we must be that we can get tarranto and...

I like Graham and think he has a pretty long future in the game and would be happy if that's with us. But if we're bringing in taranto and hopper and we decide that Graham is no longer best 22, I don't think we can afford to have his salary (~$500k) in the reserves given how tight our cap will...

7 years for hopper is a fair bit. We're really banking on this crop, tarranto and hopper 7 years, rioli, short, vlas on 5 years. Not a heap of flexibility so hope it works out!

Alright then, we've gone hard at these blokes and they've committed to us (I think tarranto has? bit strange it hasn't been confirmed yet but working on the assumption that he has). I've always been of the position that if you target someone you have to be prepared to give up what's required to...

That doesn't mean other clubs have interest in paying anything for them though

agreed, we're getting to the stage where if we only get taranto I'll be disappointed! (not to mention if we miss out on both....)

I'm pretty sure we paid a fair bit of deledio's salary so that gws would give us a first rounder for him. I suspect the club and dimma are a fair bit more prideful now though so you may be right

we've never let that stand in the way of wild speculation before, why start now?

Yep same, GWS tend to get pretty good deals for departing players. Even this is still a good outcome for us I reckon, we're getting quality players so have to expect to give up quality

Would love taranto and hopper, them plus bolton is a core of a premiership midfield which is extremely exciting. Only concern for me is that would pretty much wipe out our picks for the next two years (12 + 19 + 2023 R1), leaving us with no capital to trade or draft in a key forward. Jack's on...

If i remember correctly it was 6 and a future second for prestia and 24. This worked out much better for us than expected as we went from 13th to 1st, so when the deal was made it was expected that the 2nds would either cancel out or be slightly in our favour. I would be very (pleasantly)...

Please delete this, we're just asking for trouble

If that's the trade it's a no brainer. I think it will be more and even then still the right trade. TT is a quality player and if we want to be playing and winning finals we need him. Not to mention our suspect record on first rounders recently

absolutely agree, from memory he had one good game in the midfield against an average opposition team? Has shown nothing in the mid since. Rioli has gone past him in defence

you're braver than me being able to watch footy after last night, reckon I might be done for the year

another reason why banking wins is so important, we could manage him like geelong is doing with their older players