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    Worst coach sacking in VFL/AFL history

    Many years ago I heard Hafey speak at a function (he was fantastic), and afterwards had the chance to talk to him. While he still spoke very fondly of his time at Richmond and Collingwood, he had nothing good to say about the administrations he had to work with at Geelong or Sydney.
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    Brownlow: Time to remove ‘fairest’ in best and fairest

    The midfielder dominance criticism can be applied to all the 'major' awards though. Since the inception of the coaches award in 2003, 20 out of 23 winners have been midfielders. That includes two years with dual winners, and counting Goodes as a midfielder when he won it in 2006, based on being...
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    Annual rant - ANZAC jumpers and merch

    This is along the lines of my thoughts. If the clubs are really about commemoration rather than commercialism (and I think we already know the truth of this matter) they should: Produce only enough jumpers for the team to wear on the day Cover the costs of production and design Auction the...
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    Annual rant - ANZAC jumpers and merch

    Totally agree. More broadly, I think medals for any single home and away game are pointless, but this one is the worst of the lot. I'm sure nobody seriously confuses courage on a football field with courage on a battlefield, yet the basis on which this medal is supposed to be judged does imply...
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    Weird football scores

    That is also the highest ever score without 10 or more goals having been kicked in any quarter.
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    Weirdest Football Career

    Or away from training - there is even a story, told by enough St Kilda players from the era that it seems to have at least some basis, that he once left a house brick under the brake pedal of Trevor Barkers car, which was parked on a steep driveway. Barker's crime - other than being subject of...
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    Weirdest Football Career

    Even then his talent never saved him for long at any one club. He was sacked by Melbourne after two seasons in each of which he kicked 76 goals despite the team winning 1 and 7 goals respectively. He then moved to St Kilda where he survived only 10 games despite kicking 41 goals while the team...
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    Weirdest Football Career

    Yes, thankfully medical care - in footy and society in general - has come a long way since those days. In 1933 Fred Phillips was appointed as captain / coach of Hawthorn after previously playing 134 games for St Kilda. Before the season started, Phillips had died from blood poisoning, caused...
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    The Matthews / Bruns incident. What was it that caused the aftermath ?

    Good summary. Any fair minded Hawk supporter would acknowledge that Matthews played in a brutal fashion and commited some ‘thuggish’ acts even by the standards of his era. The man himself has said as much many times. However, it is also surely true that even those who have condemned him most...
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    The downfall of Fox Footy.

    I’ve always thought 13! is a massively overrated piece of commentary anyway. Never understood why screaming the number of goals Buddy kicked in Hudson’s strangled high pitched voice is meant to be some iconic call.
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    The downfall of Fox Footy.

    When is he not embarrassing? It may be my imagination, but he seems to have gotten even worse since last year. The shouting, waving of arms, head in hands responses as he becomes emotional are as unprofessional as his total lack of preparedness, inconsistencies or lack of understanding of...
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    Toast James Sicily - Hawthorn captain 2023 - AA 2023!

    Slobbo shows vision of * players going at Sicily stating “the players are the best judges of this”. 3 minutes later Gerad says “we will ask the (guest) players about this, they are the best judges”. Slobbo, waving arms and yelling “no they are not mate, they are not”.
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    The '' Back to Back '' Crows of 1997/98

    The Crows didn’t know it was a dead rubber at the time though did they? The Melb v Adel game was the second final played. If I remember the system correctly, had both Sydney and the Bulldogs lost later games the Crows would have been eliminated. Obviously didnt’t happen and would be unlucky if...
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    Betstar Champions Cup OMFL 2024 Discussion

    I know that, and I think that the points system - while far from perfect - is much a better model than a $ salary cap alone, which was - and perhaps still is by some - blatantly rorted. I just think that your model goes too far when Winter-Iriving would cost Wodonga ten points this year...
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    Betstar Champions Cup OMFL 2024 Discussion

    And do what? I understand that you are frustrated, but as long as clubs are not breaking any rules, what can the administrators do? And how far do you go with restricting recruiting? I assume in this case you are referring to Winter-Irving moving from Myrtleford to Wodonga (understanding that...
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    Betstar Champions Cup OMFL 2024 Discussion

    The Border Mail article quotes Steve J as referring to an unnamed "connection" who recommended the O&M as a strong comp and Yarra a strong club. More generally, I assume all well run clubs would cast the net fairly wide in recruiting. Also, for anyone involved in country footy the O&M is a very...
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    Betstar Champions Cup OMFL 2024 Discussion

    I totally agree with this. Plenty of players come into the O&M from surrounding 'minor' leagues and are gun players from the beginning. On the other hand, players have come from state leagues and even AFL backgrounds and not performed at anywhere near the level which would be expected based...
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    Betstar Champions Cup OMFL 2024 Discussion

    Going only by his playing history per Play HQ he should be at least a handy player for Yarra, but he has certainly changed clubs frequently which is a concern for me. Earlier in the current Northern Territory League season he played 5 games for Palmerston and was listed among the best players 3...
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    The '' Back to Back '' Crows of 1997/98

    Crows were huge underdogs both years by my memory. Both years they were 13-9 in home and away (albeit with the best % both years). I believe they are the only club to go 13-9 in a home & away season off 22 games to win the premiership, and they did it two years in a row! They played the minor...
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    Betstar Champions Cup OMFL 2024 Discussion

    Some brilliant players there, great list. Tossol another Rovers gun. And Sexton for Yarra. Only started in 1989, but on-ball partnership with Brunner was crucial to winning the premiership that year.
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    Betstar Champions Cup OMFL 2024 Discussion

    The week before they lost the second-semi to Yarra when Hall missed a shot after the siren from 20 metres out all but directly in front (admittedly after Hall had been a key reason for them being that close). Years later when Hall was on Front Bar they showed the footage of that miss, and he was...
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    Betstar Champions Cup OMFL 2024 Discussion

    Spot on. Being a trainer is a big time commitment. In most leagues it involves not ‘only’ being on deck for three games each match day, but being at the ground well before the under 18s and packing gear and leaving well after the seniors.
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    Betstar Champions Cup OMFL 2024 Discussion

    Cheers. Now you mention it I remember hearing about his “ living arrangements” years ago.
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    Query Ross Faulkner footies in the AFL?

    Today Tonight first aired in 1995, so I reckon your time window is accurate. Also, Triple M first broadcast footy in ‘97. Possible - but unlikely imo - that they would be advertising on the ball if not covering the sport. You could say same about Today Tonight, but at least Channel 7 was the...
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    Opinion Tell me about your “Local Legend” who could/should have made it in the AFL VFL

    The best two players I saw in the Ovens and Murray league who didn't play AFL were Robbie Walker, a centre half forward from Wangaratta Rovers who became a midfielder later in his career, and John Brunner, a rover who played for Yarrawonga and one or two seasons for Benalla. Both played in the...
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    Betstar Champions Cup OMFL 2024 Discussion

    One thing which has intrigued me for a long time about Ablett's legendary season with Myrtleford is his lack of votes in the Morris Medal relative to the extent to which he reputedly dominated the competition. His Myrtleford teammate Terry Burgess won the 1983 medal with 24 votes, 10 clear of...
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    Betstar Champions Cup OMFL 2024 Discussion

    According to AFL tables website Diesel got the 3 votes, Murray Witcome 2 and Neville Bruns 1: https://afltables.com/afl/brownlow/brownlow1984rbr.html Still an amazing couple of club debutants though!
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    Dunstall vs Lockett vs Carey vs Ablett vs Lloyd vs Franklin vs J Brown - Who is the most Elite of them all?

    Salmon played in 1990 GF and kicked 2 goals (of team total 5). So his average is 4.3, which is still impressive but drops him down your list.
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    Team of Champions vs Champion Team?

    Can you remember now what the odds were? And how much did the betting win dull the pain of the footy loss? ( I have a - clearly stupid - superstition of never betting on or against the Hawks).
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    Team of Champions vs Champion Team?

    To answer the OP, familiarity and motivation would be with Collingwood, but clearly overall class would be with the all stars. Back in the 80’s there were occasional pre season games between the reigning premier and the ‘Sun’ newspaper all stars. I can’t comment on the intensity of the matches...
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