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    Toast How can this Melbourne side be stopped?

    They are a great team, the only thing you can see stopping them is a stuff up in the finals. In 2018 it was noticeable that Richmond were not playing as well before the finals, Hawthorn should not have been top 4 so we had an easy QF and the PF was us playing badly, and Collingwood preventing...
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    Is football better now than 40 years ago?

    This is an interesting question actually. If you look at the actual stats, unfortunately contested v uncontested possessions only goes back to 1999 on AFL Tables, you find that contested possessions were around 42% of total possessions back in 1999/2000, this dropped to about 33/34% in the mid...
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    You'll never guess what the 2021 free kick differential chart looks like

    As I said, make of it what you will. Although I will add, I was answering the question posed by the thread title. I know that the free kick count will tend to be skewed in some fashion, but to have 2 teams glaringly off the charts does seem a bit weird? No? This should even up over a season, or...
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    Stand rule

    Teams will work out how to disrupt, and the lower the scores the more incentive there is to just try and outscore the other team. But the rule changes just make a mess and everyone has to adjust. While they adjust they are not innovating. The way Richmond play, the sling shot off half back is...
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    You'll never guess what the 2021 free kick differential chart looks like

    Yeah, but, the Dogs do have the most favourable free kick percentage of any team over the last 56 years ;) Hawthorn supporters should never look at the long term free kick stats, must be that poos and wees jumper they wear. Mind you, nothing compares to the West Coast advantage in home games...
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    AFL Grand Final AFL 2021 GRAND FINAL - Demons v Dogs Sat September 25th 7:15pm EST / 5:15pm WST (Optus) Congratulations Demons! 🍾🏆 Match Highlights in OP

    The margin at the end did not really reflect the game. Compare it to 2019 and think that Richmond won by less than 3 goals more than Melbourne this year. The games were completely different, but the margins are not that far apart. Melbourne dominated early, Footscray came back and looked to be...
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    You'll never guess what the 2021 free kick differential chart looks like

    Don't need to guess what the chart looks like: Interpet that however you like. But don't ask a Richmond supporter why we get the impression we are umpired differently, or why we don't feel all warm and cuddly towards the maggots. DS
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    The grand final has completely validated 6-6-6

    There is a difference when teams choose to play in position or not. Plus, HairyO clearly did not read my later post which pointed to 18 players standing around the centre bounce in the 1967 Grand Final. If you want players stuck in certain portions of the playing area go and watch netball I...
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    Toast Best footy photos ever

    Every year the premiership photos are added, seems reasonable really. Need to find some nice old pics to add. DS
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    Stand rule

    Really, in what way? You can make a statement like this but, you know, someone is going to check the numbers. So, what do we find? Let's look at inside 50s per game shall we: 2011 103 2012 102 2013 101 2014 101 2015 100 2016 104 2017 105 2018 105 2019 104 2021 103 2020...
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    The grand final has completely validated 6-6-6

    Quite happy actually, we won the flag after letting your lot go in the Preliminary Final for a while and then putting the foot down. Oh, and it would have been a centre diamond back then. I don't oppose all rule changes. I recently watched the 1967 Grand Final (great game, do yourself a...
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    Stand rule

    Stupid rule, dump it. The notion that scoring would be lower without this rule is backed by absolutely no evidence so is just pure speculation. Basically now if there is a free kick or mark then you have 17 v 18 because the man on the mark is taken out of the game. They allow the player with...
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    AFL Grand Final AFL 2021 GRAND FINAL - Demons v Dogs Sat September 25th 7:15pm EST / 5:15pm WST (Optus) Congratulations Demons! 🍾🏆 Match Highlights in OP

    I remember before the 2018 finals, looking at the ladder and noticing how many points Melbourne had conceded. That was when I thought they were not going to contend in the finals as defence is critical. It proved correct. I was surprised when Melbourne missed finals in the in-between years...
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    The grand final has completely validated 6-6-6

    Hate it, what next - off side? This is Australian Rules Football, a 360 degree game with very few restrictions on player movement. 6-6-6 is an abomination and should go along with the statue on the mark and the absurd way players stand 15 metres away on the mark when a kick out is taken after a...
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    AFL Grand Final Congratulations Melbourne 2021 Premiers!

    Played a great season and a great Grand Final - well done, well deserved: congrats. DS
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    AFL Grand Final AFL 2021 GRAND FINAL - Demons v Dogs Sat September 25th 7:15pm EST / 5:15pm WST (Optus) Congratulations Demons! 🍾🏆 Match Highlights in OP

    Good Grand Final. I think the margin was misleading as that game could have gone either way until late in the third, still a chance for Footscray to come back in the last really but Melbourne were very much on top at the end of the 3rd quarter. That last quarter was ridiculous and Melbourne just...
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    Toast Best footy photos ever

    This is a brilliant thread, I do love old pics. So here's a couple I picked up when I was looking at ground sizes: The MCG around 1926, I have increased the size a bit as it is small in the original: The MCG Southern stand not long after it was built, looking a lot cleaner than I ever...
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    15 metres - I give up.

    Personally I reckon something's wrong. How can they pay a 10 metre kick as a mark and yet let players run 25 metres without bounding or disposing of the ball? There is a massive inconsistency in their perception of distance between these 2 rules. I don't suppose it has anything to do with the...
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    Famous Grand Finals

    Amazing game, and amazing the crowd too. A similar game is the 1973 preliminary final where Richmond came back to beat Collingwood. Stunning first half, we shouldn't have been close, but again Collingwood lost a game they should have won in that era. But yeah, even as someone who is not a...
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    State of the Game: Did you feel the new rules were a success?

    Disagree with pretty much all of this. I'll tell you what is risk averse - folding right back to your defensive 50 after kicking a behind or turning over the ball because you know you can't defend anywhere but the last line of defence. What is not risk averse is holding your players forward to...
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    Famous Grand Finals

    1967 deserves a mention as mentioned above, cracker of a game, close all day, lead changes through the last quarter, simply a great game. Someone mentioned Grand Final moments, how about 1973 when Laurie Fowler runs through John Nichols - "Nichols is Down, Nichols is Down". He sure was, then...
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    State of the Game: Did you feel the new rules were a success?

    Agree. A number of problems, too much chipping around and too many throws are a couple. But what the stand rule, and the silly rule whereby the player kicking out has effectively no-one on the mark because they are so far away, has done is to shift the congestion. It is no longer possible to...
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    Opinion Dustin Martin is better than Dangerfield

    What, as you make room for them? Pointless making finals year after year if you don't win the premiership. DS
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    So much for the exciting new rules for AFL - the scoring is even lower and interpretation of the rules even more confusing

    They want AFLX. DS
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    2021 on track to be the lowest scoring full season since 1967

    Average score for Home and Away games for 2021 = 79.8 points. First time <80 since 1967 and lowest since 1967 (excluding 2020). Well that worked didn't it :rolleyes: . Many other stats such as uncontested marks as a proportion of all marks and number of uncontested marks per game have barely...
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    Opinion Which club do you hate the most?

    I'd say it varies. At the moment probably Geelong because I can't stand their coach and a few of their players. Only problem with this is that you have to respect the club and how they have managed to be competitive for so long. Was quite happy when they broke through for their first flag since...
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    2021 on track to be the lowest scoring full season since 1967

    This is an interesting one. Firstly, just to clear things up, it is the AFL claiming that higher scores are somehow a good thing, haven't heard the fans really asking for this. The AFL also seem to be very confused when it comes to how to do this - sometimes they imply that making players more...
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    Why is the game broken?

    When they don't pay all the free kicks they see they will be inconsistent. There is no other outcome. Why the AFL set a goal of less free kicks given in a professional sport, which is analysed to the Nth degree to gain an advantage is beyond me: the obvious response will be to analyse which free...
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    So much for the exciting new rules for AFL - the scoring is even lower and interpretation of the rules even more confusing

    Average score so far this year: 79.85. Last time average score for a season (excluding 2020 for obvious reasons) was under 80: 1967. Well done AFL, now, want to undo the mess you lot have created? DS
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    Stkilda had 19 men on the field

    Yeah, look, you will generally do well if you are playing StKilda. But, if you really want to win the free kick count, just play Richmond - here's how it looks up to R17 in 2021. Don't play Footscray though. DS

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