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You dont trade players who have shown nothing. Put his name out there and see if there is any takers. WCE throw up Petrucelle then consider it. Doubt Freo would bother. Doubt he'd go to a non-Vic club that isn't back home. Future 2nd round pick perhaps if the next draft looks good? People get...

Its a half disagree. Strongly too. Hayward I agree with. But Florent would be great for us.

I'd be surprised to see a goal a game out of him. Gibbons does more work up the field so even though I rate him I think 30-35 between them max. With Eddie's goals potentially drying up more or being gone all together it's very obvious why we targeted Papley. If he is fit and doing okay in the...

I'm a once in a decade man. I think i was originally 2006 before 2010. It's not massively divided. Probably 1/4 hate it (not me). The rest are just cup crazy because we know thats why he was brought in. Then there's Gero the outlier on the positive stakes

He has those sharp hands but ranks 40th for general forwards (non KPF) for score involvements per game.

With Papley gone do you actually think we have the answer with our #25 as a small-fwd for a 2021 finals side? Do we actually think Zac Fisher as a small fwd will get 35+ goals a season?

If he isn't a mid. And he isn't a competent small-fwd. What exactly is he?

Would have still looked a bit soft and unprofessional, but they got the job done on the day so it could be overlooked. Job not done at all and then that.... Not what winners culture would be proud of

Changed the minute we sacked a long term manager for Mourinho. It's cup, cup, cup or nothing now. Would be league title if it was even a remote possibility. But you don't get Mourinho for 36 months and be happy with two top 4 finishes. You have to take a 6th or 8th and a cup now because the dire...

I said all along he hit the scoreboard in 3 out of his last 8 games as a small fwd. Awful return. 6 goals in 8 games isn't in question.

He has 6 goals in 8 games. And 4 in one game. So he has hit the goals 3 times

He is a forward with goals in 3 out of 8 games. How's that for his revised role and how he is going? Again, I'm not saying he is a write off to be delisted. But a player down 2 years in a row that might be of interest elsewhere. Somewhere where he might play in a role he isn't a C or D-grader at

Only a 3 year deal. Payout will be 12-15 months

With our fixture list we should focus on the cups and finish hopefully top half in the league. We are way off finishing top 4 so if we want CL back then we have to take the first team into every Europa League match

We've only been really good probably twice all season (WB & PA). Most of our wins have 1 awful quarter. We went toe to toe and lost to port and its the 2nd happiest I've been with the overall performance.

People think talking about trading someone is the end of them, but it's just that they clearly can play but aren't in our top half dozen or in Fisher's case top 10. Need to offer someone with best 22 exposed form at some point to get anything decent in return. Fisher can play. He just hasn't...

A 7-10 season is the equivalent of a 9-13 season which is where I thought we'd get to this year. A solid C-grade pass for us. My biggest concern is the manner which we lost 3 games in particular (Haw, Coll, Ade) & also just how s**t we played in 3 other wins (NM, GC, Sydney). Throw in awful...

He has been shoehorned as a fwd pocket by our brains trust. For what reason? Up his pressure? His tackle stats are getting worse. Up his score involvements with these famed brilliant skills? Also down.

25-40 mins of non-stop bad football is very consistent.

He has hit the scoreboard in 4 out of 8 games, with goals in just 3/8

And i thought Spurs losing was going to be worst thing I cop on my Monday and then you tell me this! How long are we stuck with him?

Wtf are you on about?

If the coaches dont see him as a mid then he is a C-grade small fwd. Would be better trading him to a club that sees him as a mid and who might give us a piece of the puzzle we need, a competent small-fwd or a mid that we rate.

We couldnt get it done because of external factors unfortunately. Threw the sink at it and still missed

I wonder how much the Swans starting to show signs of life and our 2nd half of the season (and Melb & Essendon's) struggles impacted that. Sydney have been pretty impressive and might not be as far from a rise up than people thought.

Massive hole in our list but we don't bat deep enough in the midfield. Would rather Owies get games or a kid like Honey out of position in the pocket, with Fisher playing in the same sort of role as Gibbons.

Well its a huge problem if our coaching setup thinks a midfielder like Fisher is a pure fwd pocket! Even when Fisher was more mid last year his numbers were falling and he was often anonymous.

Wow massive good news on the McGov front. Scary news seeing Setterfield on that list!

Not even linked to anyone with it. Ideal panic window now would be Zaha (CF/W) & Grealish (AM). Likely to get Sorloth & * all

He isn't a natural small fwd. He has to be a fwd-mid just like Gresham / Bolton. But he doesn't have runs on the board playing higher up either. If a club didnt come in for him, happy for him to stay. But we need to be offering players with currency which he has a little.