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    Recommitted Tom De Koning [Signed until 2025]

    Fortunately for you, Ratugolea likely stays and we'll never know who is valued more highly.
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    Free Agency Ben McKay [Joins Essendon as RFA]

    I am not really going to take a Carlton Supporter's view on player quality seriously. He was one of the best wingers in the comp for the last 4 years he was with us. Amon would be best 22 for all 18 teams. He got Band 3. We got pick 27 (I.e a speculative pick at best) for a dead certainty over...
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    Recommitted Tom De Koning [Signed until 2025]

    No, I view more highly a guy who is 23 (almost 24), who has played decent-slightly below average football for 2.5 years, who has an extra year left of development in him physically as being a better prospect. Ratugolea was an athlete that couldn't play football until 11 games ago. His floor...
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    Traded Esava Ratugolea [Traded to Port Adelaide for #25, #76 and #94]

    Zerk-Thatcher who is unsigned and South Australian. Mckay - Free agent. Marcus Adams Jack Silvagni - UFA and supposedly a bit out of favor. Alex Keath If we were actually willing to spend anything like a first rounder on a KPD, it would open up guys like Barass/ Petty who are in contract.
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    Player Watch Pick #18 (2019) - Mitch Georgiades

    Georgiades has gone through periods where he has run under some easy balls, dropped sitters, etc. Lord in the admittedly small sample size has been absolutely imperious in the air. Has forced the ball to ground when completely out of position, has stood up and just gone '* you, it's mine'. He...
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    Player Watch Pick #18 (2019) - Mitch Georgiades

    Height matters. 6'3 KPF's are likely to develop quicker than 6'6+ ones. Lord has shown some very good football IQ/ability (even if only in spurts). His aerial presence is obvious, but in his first game he both 1) deliberately spoiled from an almost impossible position to a teammate for a GA, and...
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    Free Agency Ben McKay [Joins Essendon as RFA]

    Amon was only Band 3 as well which royally ****ed us off. I can only assume he is on a 4x600 type deal as we would have offered the same. IMO Mckkay has to do ALOT to justify that he is a more than a 4x600k player. Based on form, He would have been playing for our SANFL side up until about a...
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    Recommitted Tom De Koning [Signed until 2025]

    I largely agree with that. Both prospects. I wouldn't ever pay any more than about pick 25 for players at their age that weren't already lock first 22 players with several years of form. I made a comment on the other thread that I don't trust 1 year form at all. Seen far too many players...
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    Traded Esava Ratugolea [Traded to Port Adelaide for #25, #76 and #94]

    Are we casually leaving out the fact that many in the media called TDK's dropping as crazy and virtual confirmation that he will leave? There will be decent KPDs available for a pick in the 25-40 range which is what we can afford. If he leaves, and you reckon you're getting a first rounder for...
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    Toast Australian Rules Hall of Fame Night 2023

    This is a reasonable take. Can you call someone a campaigner to make us all feel more comfortable?
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    Traded Esava Ratugolea [Traded to Port Adelaide for #25, #76 and #94]

    Only if you have a reading age of 5.
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    Recommitted Tom De Koning [Signed until 2025]

    One was a late round draft pick who has shown no ability to be an AFL player until 11 games ago. The other is a first round pick who has played in the same position his entire career and is showing moderate competence. Personally, I believe TDK is worth 'a bit' more than Esava but they will...
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    Traded Esava Ratugolea [Traded to Port Adelaide for #25, #76 and #94]

    So why even comment on the thread then? I think he's 70-80% staying at the cats. There's a chance that he's not, and so, given he was off to Port last year, it is reasonable to conclude that he would be going there if he decided to leave. Given some of the threads on here, the player is 0.0%...
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    Traded Esava Ratugolea [Traded to Port Adelaide for #25, #76 and #94]

    Let's play this game then. Who are these clubs that are interested? Sydney - You're not getting a top 10 first rounder. Not even close. Do they give you a F1 thinking that might be a 15-18 next year, doubt it unless there is some academy hijinx and they need to get rid of the pick (which they...
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    Traded Esava Ratugolea [Traded to Port Adelaide for #25, #76 and #94]

    We don't do simple. We don't have a first rounder to give. F2 + pick swap of some description.
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    Traded Esava Ratugolea [Traded to Port Adelaide for #25, #76 and #94]

    Clearly we were last year ... for pick 33 when he was in contract. I am sure being out of contract makes his value go up to a first-round pick in the space of a year. We're plenty interested in a trade ... for a second round pick, which is what he's worth (you know the same amount you paid for...
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    Traded Esava Ratugolea [Traded to Port Adelaide for #25, #76 and #94]

    You don't seem to understand how contracts work. If he's uncontracted, you don't just list demands if he wants to leave. There is a broadly accepted range of what he could be worth and if you're asking considerably more than the top end of that range, player managers start pulling their dicks...
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    Recommitted Tom De Koning [Signed until 2025]

    Not sure I agree with this sentiment. KPPs generally go later because they take 3-5 years to develop and are therefore a much higher risk of failure. Once they have developed and there is no risk involved, they are much more valuable, aka Luke Jackson. I must admit, I was actually quite...
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    Traded Esava Ratugolea [Traded to Port Adelaide for #25, #76 and #94]

    33 Was frankly overs last year. He had literally no exposed form in the AFL that suggested he would make it. We offered 33 because that is all we had and he was in contract. It's laughable that Geelong supporters here think they're going to get first rounder offers when they were trying to pay...
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    Traded Esava Ratugolea [Traded to Port Adelaide for #25, #76 and #94]

    Poor old Geelong. Clubs aren't tripping over to throw first rounders at an uncontracted KPD who has shown absolutely no ability to play AFL std football in any position other than defence, and has played in defence for checks notes - 11 games. Meanwhile the last player Geelong traded in, they...
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    Recommitted Mason Redman [re-signed for 5 years]

    He doesn't make things up for airtime, which makes him better than 99% of AFL journos. He might speculate, but it's clear when he's giving his own opinion versus when he has some inside information. Case in point his commentary about Miles Bergman. Said Vic club's think he's more likely to stay...
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    Traded Esava Ratugolea [Traded to Port Adelaide for #25, #76 and #94]

    what are you even arguing about ... . He was clearly out the door last year if a trade could happen. That was a Esava decision not some 'outside' force like is being said now. He is getting game time now so there is less draw to leave. I don't get what is so difficult to comprehend. You're just...
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    Autopsy AFL 2023 Round 15 - Swans v Eagles Sat June 24th 4:35pm AEST (SCG)

    VFL/SANFL/WAFL sides would get tuned up pretty regularly. 169 points might be the upper end of being s**t, but play enough games and someone was really going to get after them. These sorts of results would have happened more often if the 6-6-6 rule was in place earlier. Even we had to cop it...
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    Traded Esava Ratugolea [Traded to Port Adelaide for #25, #76 and #94]

    I am saying he is saying it politely now that he is still at Geelong. He's not really going to say: 'Yeah I was 99.9% out the door.'
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    Traded Esava Ratugolea [Traded to Port Adelaide for #25, #76 and #94]

    Sounds like revisionist history. Definitely an opportunity issue, but the idea that it was manager driven and not him wanting to go elsewhere is pretty unbelievable. As long as Geelong keep picking him and offering him a deal that suggests he is in their long term plans (3 years+), he would have...
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    Umpire's pets, Most goals from free kicks

    They're misleading as a whole. They were wheeling these stats out in 2020 talking about Charlie Dixon getting the most free kicks as a forward. That's fine and all, but he was getting held at almost every contest meanwhile Franklin/ Hawkins basically throw opponents out the way all career and...
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    Autopsy AFL 2023 Round 12 - Port v Hawks Sat June 3rd 1:45pm AEST (AO)

    Very interesting seeing the potting of Port. Spent alot of petrol early. Finlayson was gassed late in the 3rd term, Aliir cramping 10mins into the 4th. Dylan Williams (known to not be terribly fit) walking by the end of the game. Our bigger bodies won the game when it was in the balance. Lycett...
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