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I genuinely don't understand why people think the year should have no one as a winner. Regardless of whether Jobe should or should not have handed it in, the fact is he did and it should go to the next in line.

Actually that's the 2016 draw

In Carey's defense (I feel dirty just for writing that) he was hardly good buddies with Moran. They were neighbours and had barely chatted a few times in the street. They didn't socialize together and Carey's evidence was limited to "he seems a nice guy and kicks the footy in the street with his...

Looks cool. But why does it have three legs?

So you can earn millions, piss it away on drink and drugs, take no responsibility for your own actions and then beg for more money when you go broke. What a time to be alive! Excuse me while I decide whether to give my last $20 to Chick or the children's cancer ward

Where did I say that premierships came into it? Without Riewoldt, the Saints would have been a much worse team and a player's importance can be measured in more than just premierships won. Clearly you didn't understand the OPs question.

St Kilda without Riewoldt is far worse off than Hawthorn without Hodge. Roo has therefore been of better value to his club in my mind. Nice way to word the question OP, so much more interesting than "who is the better player" which just creates a shitstorm

Stood behind Scott Cummings in the line at Coles. After minutes of waiting he turns to me and says "geez they are slow here", I reply with an affirmative nod and eye roll. Good times

This thread has been a real eye opener. I never knew Swans fans were such whiners. I guess that's what happens when you only support a team when its winning, and expect hand outs when you're not. Anyway, the Dogs thoroughly deserved the win and the umpiring had no effect on the result. And yes...

I cant believe they made something worse than the last logo. Looks cheap, and with nothing linked to the club (like a footy, the north stripes, the silhouette of the kangaroo). Cant see this lasting more than a couple of seasons, its just awful. Says nothing and in no way links the logo to the...

So true! Its like saying "No offence, but you're a f#$%#$% c%$#". No harm if you precede it with "no offence but..."

I think you mean Mark Bickley's flatulence http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/the-fart-that-cost-a-premiership/news-story/099ebdf4f799d074d85a3e9cb54b4b56

Cant do it, Charters was confirmed to be working for/with Woewodin in 2000. Who finished third that year, give it to them

Unfortunately the eruption of Mt St Helen's destroyed the area, although it was over 8 years later. The terrain in that entire area is incredibly dense, and many people think they were looking in the wrong area from the start

Umm. What exactly? There have been many articles over the years, so journalists have clearly looked into it. And when you read the reports, from the early articles which mentioned one class, to now claiming an entire school saw it, the substance is there. Not sure what you're on about to be...

The story has been investigated by reporters, many times in fact. The problem is there are so many inconsistancies with the "eye witnesses", and frankly so many people claiming to have been there that clearly weren't. Even the documentary aired on foxtel around 6 years ago, which was fairly...

What I'm amazed at, is that in 1966 it was reported that a class and a teacher saw it. But in the 50 years since, its now hundred of people who did. And, they are quick to say they saw something and just as quick to say they cant say anything because unknown people told them not to

Worst for mine is the Crows (its a freakin' raven), Bulldogs (off-center) and North (the old silhouette was perfect and iconic, cant work out why they changed it). The Essendon one is very ordinary too, and reeks of late 90s design. Hopefully the new one is better, although it wont be as good...

Give him time, he's still got a few years to prove himself and he seems to be getting better

Anyone going or will I be the lone Essendon supporter there? First time at Subiaco and going to the footy by myself; are there any pregame drinks or anything with fans?

Because there are far too many journalists and experts paid to talk or write about football. They all want a bit of attention, and cant all write the same "team x is great", "player Y is crap" articles week in week out. So instead they amplify minor things so they can get a little ahead of the...

And in equivalent news, Essendon have announced they will refuse to play in Russia to protest against the Russian athletic team's doping. AFL clubs love a p!ss-weak token moral outrage, but this is just embarrassing. Hearing Jack claim that Richmond have been known as being at the forefront of...

Chick sounds like a typical drug addict - it's everyone else's fault; I'm doing better than all of you; give me some money.

And don't forget he tried to get the Bulldogs to sing "Wonderwall" instead of "Sons of the West" after Oasis split up. People who don't like Bob, don't like life.

Totally agree, but I feel Thompson has been let off and Hird the face of the debacle. Most fans, and the media, want Hird hung, drawn and quartered. I think he should be behind the board and Bomber in the blame stakes.

That Bomber Thompson is more responsible for the situation Essendon are in, than James Hird. Hird was appointed without a job description or any knowledge of how to be a coach. Thompson was there to teach him, but gave some really bad advice on who to appoint (ie Dank and Robinson). Unpopular...

Interesting arrest, hope it pans out for the family and they get some closure. From what I recall, many of the family felt that the grandfather and/or uncle were involved, and even in recent years still made vocal these claims. Great police work, good on all involved for not giving up...

Such an odd case, in particular the lack of evidence. In this day and age, its incredible that in daylight no one saw what happened and there were no cameras in the area. Still not knowing whether it was an abduction, accident or runaway is incredible in itself, but then there was the situation...

Very true. I know a family who were all mad Essendon supporters. Once this started the kids got teased so much at school and at games, they all jumped ship and support other teams now. I'm certain this is a common story in Melbourne over the last few years.

I appreciate your passion, but unfortunately for some (like me) it just isn't that easy. The last few years have taken a toll on my enjoyment of the game and love of the club. I now see how a few individuals, looking for personal glory, can destroy something I thought was strong without anyone...