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Such a great win! Ever player i had written off in our team played amazing today! I hope they bring this effort against Sydney and who knows, anything can happen.

Judd won the brownlow that year

just contributing to the thread

I never changed my number 1 favourite team, but I followed WC as my second favourite when Benny Cuz played there and then changed to Richmond as my second favourite team when he went there and now he is retired I dont like either of them.

Both are good, its hard to tell who is better.

Yes it has obviously been a success

Nobody should care about this, I know I don't. I only care about what he brings to the field which during 2012 was very impressive. People need to move on to a higher level of thinking, like in the NFL and NBA where all that matters is their performance in the arena. Let the courts deal with...

i hope sydney pass on tippett. The guy is selfish, easily concussed and his price tag has been severely hyperinflated. The Swans should focus on getting players who are in line with their amazing club culture and playing style - Tippett clearly is not.

Schoenmakers is fine, get over it

I a I agree, I was at the Swans match and enjoyed the struggle as well as seeing the adelaide fans disbelief at finding out their team is no good.

Fair point, I guess it would come down to the personality of the individuals involved but I could see it being able to work, but you're right, most times it would be asking for trouble

Why not? Ratten doesnt strike me as someone with an ego problem

What i dont get is why is it they always have to be sacked and not just given a new role? I think it would be good to just move Ratten to midfield coach and have malthouse as the head coach. Ratten would have some useful tips for mick about the playing group and if his only focus was on...

West Coast in elimination final, then Crows in semi final would be my dream run out of all the realistic possibilities

amazing game, hawthorn hasnt lost respect so there is no need to blame umpires

i presume he factors in injuries in his equations so he is correct

These rankings are actually precisely how i see the teams, so nice job

why would we go backwards? we will only have more players back from injuries and youngsters more developed and we dont have lots of old guys retiring so maybe you should have said you 'hope' we go backwards instead

glad he is doing well

I think every team gets the same sort of advantage at home ground, where the umpires slightly buckle to to crowd pressure maybe give 1 or 2 free kicks extra over the match to the home team. The crows get it at AAMI i wouldnt worry about it, it all evens out in the end.

carlton are in a similar position as crows were last year, im thinking we should behave like you guys did in that situation and complain and whinge until our coach gets sacked

disgrace should have got zero

If this ends up being more than wellingham got it is pretty embarrassing for the AFL

This shouldnt even be looked at what a disgrace.

Why do people keep saying eye gouging and pressure points as though they are two separate incidents?

To compare this incident against wellingham's last week which only got 3, we can rest easy because judd will get zero. The Juddster will be available for us all to watch and admire next week, dont worry.

Why do our players always get injured, our injury run is getting beyond just being "unlucky". I think our conditioning needs to be looked at. Who is responsible for the health of our players?

Collingwood can certainly cover injuries far better than we can.

We have certainly been hit harder by injuries than any other club this year and the majority of our back ups arent up to it. This is not ratten's fault, however good coaches like malthouse can somehow hide the flaws of his duds when he has to play them but our duds are exposed every time...

Great post audas! right on the ball. I would call this match a 60/40 in carltons favour at best, we are playing as selfishly and lazily as I've ever seen before. Terrible, terrible performances recently.