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Spot on mate. That was the view of pretty much everyone posting draft reports online back then and I backed it in. I'd seen nothing of the draftees and was going on some very negative stories about Buddy. Lesson learnt. The club knows what it's doing. People on the internet don't.;)

The club knows what its doing. They haven't stepped a foot wrong in years and have shown fans (myself included), the media and critics wrong time and time again with shrewd trading and recruiting. They just won us a flag and they are now striving for sustained success. There are players on...

If the O'Keefe deal falls through, something like that could be on the cards, despite what people on Bigfooty say. Hawthorn are looking to top up, our time has arrived. We have surplus forward depth. How about Garland?;)

(a) We're hearing offers, nothing more. Thorp and Dowler are not in our 22. It would silly not to. (b) Seven years down the track? Perhaps we will just make do with Franklin and Roughhead. They're stars at 21 and will only improve. I doubt Thorp or Dowler will ever be as good as Bud and Rough...

Me too.

Neither are being shopped around but both are available for a good offer. This thread doesn't have any good offers.

You're not. His performances at Box Hill have been s**t. He's had injuries but the hype on him is ridiculous as Boyle, Dowler and even Dawson have shown more at Box Hill. Just because he was an early pick doesn't mean he must be kept. If a great offer comes along, we'll take it. If it...

Correct. It's also what puts the club in a strong position for ROK. He'll be offered a deal with big bucks next year that reduces over the duration of the contract to allow room for re-signing stars that come out of contract over the next two years. For next year alone, I understand there is...

lol :p

The Cats are (were) rated because they peak early and win irrelevant games pre-September. Much like the already forgotten Port Adelaide of 2002-2003.

And if the Bulldogs kicked straight, you wouldn't have even made the GF. Hawthorn had more shots at goal if you discount the rushed behinds anyway. But yes, your blokes are soft September chokers though. You were crap all month while the better side peaked at the right time. Just another Port...

Because what he does won Hawthorn a premiership. There is no better reason to rate a footballer.

You mean two bald sooks. McLaren played a ripper for the Cats.:thumbsu:

Yes, it's certainly humorous that pretty much the one year Carlton didn't tank this century was the year of the super 2004 draft.

We were hated already and would have been cained mercilessly if Geelong won on the weekend. Some gloating is inevitable.

Since he's moved to defence, I think he is. Hodge is an excellent midfielder, one of very many in the competition and one of several at Hawthorn. But as a defender he is unrivalled. He reads the play better than anyone in the game, he's hard as nails, he uses the ball superbly and he's...

Re: how far away are we from the cats ? 2 years.

Envious, not scared. Hawthorn have nothing to lose in 2008. Geelong are the best side in the comp and anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves. We're a young side and unlikely to hit our peak for another 2-3 years. You're right to point out the Lions. Hawthorn are where Geelong and St...

Watts = Riewoldt.

Re: Chance Bateman Behind Franklin, our most important player. We've done ok at covering Mitchell, Hodge, Sewell and Lewis so long as a couple of the others are out there. But Bateman and Crawf provide something we seriously lack depth in. I reckon the absence of both was crucial to the...

Not a bogey side as we've beaten them 50% of the time in the last couple seasons. But they are a side that lifts for Hawthorn and a side I fear we take too easily. They only get labelled a bogey side because people expect we should be beating them 100% of the time. A true bogey side you...

There is a difference between excuses and reasons. Of course we all expected to win last week, even without key players. The main reasons we lost are: 1. Failure to kick easy set shots. 2. An overall lack of intensity compared to our opponent 3. Injuries to four of our top 10 players...

Spot on. We're 11-2. Sure we lost on the weekend but we did so without a Brownlow Medallist, an All Australian CHB, last year's Best and Fairest and the bloke who may be leading this year's best and fairest. Despite that, we still could have won but Buddy and Roughhead kicked like clowns...

Why are we allowing these **** on the Hawthorn board?

Brownlow medallist? Best and fairest winner? All Australian centre half back? Their best midfield runner? Edwards was on the verge of being dropped before he got injured. Swallow and Power are hacks, Sinclair can't get a spot in the side. You can question our depth and I agree we've come up...

Wells plays 2-3 good games a year. Depends how many times they play Hawthorn.:o The rest of the time he's average.

Half glass empty or half glass full? Empty: - Geelong will win the flag and every other side should give up now. Full: - One month into last season people were saying the same thing about West Coast. Things can change unbelievably quickly in football. It's hard to see how any side...

I reckon we can put to bed any debate on who the current best player in the comp is. Every other player has the odd (even if it is once every two months) bad game. Ablett doesn't. He's just a freak.

He has never torn a game apart. He gets 30 meaningless touches every week. He's vanilla. If it weren't for Richo, you wouldn't have won a game all year. Deledio is a decent midfielder but is absolutely nowhere near elite. If you consider his current standard to be that, then it's easy to...

Correct weight. I've always maintained Brown is the most overrated player of his generation. An excellent player, yes, but his record does not stack up against Tredrea or Hall. He won three flags in his first couple seasons but contributed very little in those games. It's his style of play that...