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I don't think there's much doubt that Truck failed at ensuring his standards were met last year...he demanded a blue collar team, he got an unfit and at times lazy team...again, the players have talked about how much higher the standards were this pre-season compared to the year before, and I'd...

I'd argue that basically every one of those guys were not only rewarded with several games when there were often at least some other options available, but even worse, rewarded with contracts (and security) beyond what their output dictated. I'm not saying Woosha and Truck were clueless btw --...

Also, demanding a standard, rather than asking for it then rewarding those who constantly breach it with more and more senior games - if we're talking recent years (i.e. the Worsfold/Truck years) many who were not living up to even the most basic of afl standards have gone in the last two...

What about Gawn vs Steele in a normal draft league?

Max Gawn with pick 1? ...plenty of midfield depth out there.

I come in peace/def not having a crack... ...genuinely like the Suns and hoping they will come good - the signs are better than they are bad, so I legit feel as much as tonight sucked balls, there's more to work with than recent results (syd excluded) would suggest. I've had Touk in my draft...

For me he has been "past"/better than Ambrose for about 2 years...

Was I talking about his stats or his impact?

Still missing some legit impact players, and trying to find rhythm with forced changes/less than ideal structures etc, but that will come - I can't see the Pies making the 8 but the signs are better than many (including a lot of Pies fans) are making out. Seriously 20+ posts on the preview in...

Not having a crack or anything here when I say, many posts seem to be giving way too much weight to a r1 performance - and I say that with the greatest respect because I know it's easy to do...many fans of winning and losing sides, as well as objective unbiased observers, largely do each year -...

Yeah you're probably right. How could they possibly know if he can play after only giving him 3 full seasons of vfl + a few senior games + senior JLT games + an upgrade to the senior list for another year of full time footy? The poor lad is being starved of opportunity.

Wow - I knew you'd battle to name another, but how far off you were with your response at least gave me a giggle. Lin Jong? In his 3rd vfl season back in 2014? Love it. For the record (and speaking of "full of s**t") he averaged 19 disposals, played largely as a tagger as opposed to an...

So you're saying there are other vfl onballers who average 15 disposals a week being offered spots on other afl lists? Feel free to share them with us champ.

Plz - you think Long will make it? Time will tell, but I think we both know who is going to be wrong about this one - I'd like it to be me....having another Long carving it up along the wing would be awesome - alas, I think we all know it will be you. As for opportunities, the guy was drafted...

Agree and then some. I can't believe Gibson isn't listed in almost all of your best 22's tbh - is he a run and carry? Is he flashy? Is he silky? No - Is he an intelligent footballer with great strength over the footy and work ethic, who knows how to play an important role? - clearly yes. I'm...

Farken Long again...if he gets a run again it's crazy - least likely to make it on our list since Quinn (if not longer), and never seems to be short of opportunities to show us why.

I'll sit tight until Lamumba says a few more things...

It's been a fair while since I've posted on bf....but it has to be said that this is the most ludicrous thread I've seen in several years. March 15th, prior to any new draftees playing an actual game, and a third of our list being suspended players returning after 18 months out of footy, yeah...

I'll start by saying, yep, Wietering showed more good signs than bad and it's easy to see that he has the tools (both physical and footy IQ) for him to become a very good defender at afl level. And in time he probably will. But Jesus could Dwayne Russell and co calm down a bit? "This is just...

Pathetic response. Do try to keep up.

Wow - so the AFL, who knew of a possible compromise to the health and well being of their players and didn't adequately follow up for approx 18 months, which resulted in many players supposedly put at risk, were in fact investigated....and it appears had nothing to answer to. Yet the club under...

According to 35Daicos (see above post) the numbers were 10 from 73 in 2015...which is double what you quoted. 2 from 91 isn't even close to being accurate. Let's go ultra conservative and say your 5 of 72 figure was accurate - that's still less than one eighth of one percent below what it...

So they didn't investigate the AFL then...glad you agree.

All of whom have a vested interest in lobbying for extra cash, opportunities, and programs. But in reality in your opinion, is the disproportionate representation of less than one eighth of one percent significant in your view?

They say they didn't...Worksafe have said on the record, that they were not commissioned to investigate the AFL...just Essendon.

Should worksafe have also investigated the AFL's responsibilities and duty of care practiced then?

It's not a defense - it's a comment on which parties had responsibility should the unanimous not guilty decision be over turned.

And another question - a quick google search shows me that according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics, 7.06% of Australia's Indigenous people live in Victoria (47,300 out of 669,881). You're saying 5 of 72 Indigenous AFL players are from Victoria....that's 6.94% How is 7.06% vs 6.94%...

Is there any evidence at all that the Indigenous players who based on talent and work ethic deserve to see the inside of a TAC Cup side, are not seeing the inside of a TAC Cup side? (and therefore actually require a "bridge to the TAC Cup" as you put it?) If so I'm legitimately interested to...

You don't think the AFL who contracts the players, is in charge of their safety and well being, AND knew that "something" medically unorthodox was happening (to the point that they had blood samples taken and sent to Germany) yet didn't follow up on their welfare until after the ACC held their...