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More people die from taking an over the counter aspirin than any of the vaccines. I dare say that anyone not taking the vaccine today due to health risk with all the statistics out there available must be cautious beyond belief, generally speaking. To the extent of doing... almost nothing in...

You mean, he collapsed and now you're saying it must have been caused by the vaccine? Just like all those deaths that occurred while people had the virus (with not of)? Or, I guess the hundreds of millions of people who didn't have trouble with the vaccine just got lucky, hey?

I get that. Government have gotten far too involved in people's lives this time around, which we do agree on. They've taken away basic freedoms in order to appease the masses, post fear campaign. I give them some leeway with hospitals, but again, what's happening in Vic right now shows their...

As hard as the cash splash was to target, it would be harder to in fairness take it back. It's done. Move on. You're looking at this in hindsight. The federal government reacted when on a world scale there was very little known about the virus and potential impact. In reality Australia had the...

Agreed, the federal government did a blanket support package that was rushed out in order to avoid economic collapse. It was never going to be targeted well enough to not find its way to those who don't need support. Yes, businesses should be giving excess funds back, a lot never will. Like many...

Society has to continue, move on. There is no reason 'the arts' or any other group should be given special financial support for years to come. Supply and demand will shift post Covid, society will alter in many ways, there will be more demand in some industries, less in others. If supply for...

Yes, I will take something if medical experts and evidence suggests it works. This vaccine does, make all the deflections you like. The irony here is, most Australians spend their lives filling their bodies with rubbish, they'll keep doing it too, knowing it's bad for them. Most don't...

This is exactly the humour I come to this thread for..

A lot of the anti-vaxxers on here are from states not impacted yet... Their lives have been left all but unchanged since the start. I can actually related to them not understanding all of this, to an extent. Well, it's all about to become very real for them in 2022. Living with Covid that is...

I'll bet their in that vulnerable category, which seems why boosters are now becoming available and approved for such people.

Looks like the FDA has just approved boosters for Americans aged 65 and older, or 'higher risk people', today.

Yep, the % of all groups will rise significantly, because this virus will spread all over the place. But as it's a % rise, that equals a HEAP of unvaccinated people who are ending up in hospital. Hence, the state premiers are crapping themselves re. their health systems.

FDA didn't approve boosters for young people, yeah? Too soon to determine whether necessary or not because they've only been vaccinated a short time?

What evidence did anyone have that the original vaccine would work? It does... If it doesn't, why are almost all those finding themselves in hospital unvaccinated? Why is the nurses union telling lies, even disagreeing with the government? What's their motive?

I agree. They now talk of underlying conditions when advantageous. However, there's simply no denying it, many, many more unvaccinated Covid patients will take up hospital beds when Australia opens up. Many who won't die, but otherwise wouldn't have been there if vaccinated. Taking beds away...

Are you suggesting a booster may be needed? A 5 minute prick on the arm? :'( So what? Seems it keeps people out of hospital, no? Or is the nurses union who oppose Andrews' idea to start opening up before 80% double dose just telling lies?

It will depend on how each state's health systems manage the unvaccinated who need treatment. Some of the most vulnerable people in Victoria seem to be the least willing to take the vaccine, the same groups with the most infections, and spreading it. Time they got responsible and got...

Where?

Rubbish. Where do you live? If you're in Victoria and trying to tells us that 'hardly anybody is wearing masks' you've not left your house, you're wrong. Very few are not wearing them indoors, outdoors, yes, when people are out and about walking I'd say it's 70/30 aren't. Post 80% double...

Perhaps. Can you please direct me towards the balanced Australian media source?

Is your 'Australia is a racist nation' schtick an excuse for yourself, or are you working on behalf of others?

Was a toilet then, Turkey is still a 2nd world toilet now.

Dan Andrews logic for condemning protests - 'Were so close to 80% and 'opening up', why are people protesting...?' ... because soon cases mean nothing, right? 'Aged care is required to be vaccinated, there's more cases now in construction than aged care, so mandatory for construction is...

Can we introduce this for people who are overweight please? Coronary conditions still the biggest killer and health care cost to society. Sure way to get people off their backsides and responsible. What IS completely fair is to make anyone who enters hospital with Covid unvaccinated to pay...

The party to vote for who isn't promoting division is.....?

I'm not aiming this at you specifically... The others who do fall into the aforementioned categories can listen though.

The most relevant climate change statistic to think about is the % of academics and 'scientists' who are said to be pro-man made climate change. I believe it's said to be 97%. So in other words, 97% of academics and scientists want a piece of the billion$ of dollars of government money on offer...

I'm not telling you anything. I do know that if you do nothing but talk about cases for 18 months (politicians), people keep thinking about it. I'm sure that vaccination considered, there's no more people sick with Covid in hospitals in Singapore than what's typical with the flu. Nations will...

Let's then. Singapore's cases have gone from in the 30s to over 1000 daily in 1 month! At the same time, deaths have gone from 46 to 60, total. Extraordinary rise in cases, not in deaths. A lot more unvaccinated people in hospital though. What's happened in Singapore is expected, in fact it's...

But they aren't following the Govt narrative, keep up. They want lockdown beyond the national cabinet / state decision. Do I agree with the Union? No. But this Union is doing what they do, protect their employees from having to work harder, longer hours to deal with more unvaccinated sick...