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Look we all agree with that. And it's those quality senior players that allow the youngsters to develop. So a question - what is it that NM need to become successful? You've had a shitload of high draft picks - so giving you more doesn't seem to be the answer. Do you need a salary cap that...

Guys - I know it's tough but hang in there. Just 4 weeks ago WC were seen as the worst AFL team ever & know that is all seemingly forgotten. You have some very good youngsters and like WC found, they will come good. But it's imperative the senior players lead the way.

One of my best friend's son plays for Freo

It was appalling. Sonny is one of footballs gentlemen. He is well known for volunteering to talk to children and will always have a photo taken with a child even if he's come off the track and is sweaty and muddy. It was not racist but to be called a 'druggie' and 'a waste of oxygen' is just wrong

Very talented group. Maybe not as good as last years but deeper especially mids

He is one person I think would add value to the club. I think anyone can see the potential hole behind McGovwrn and Barrass

What they want and what they get are 2 different things. Baker is a great kid - fantastic character and a wonderful young man - but anyone who thinks he is worth a pick greater than 20-25, I think has hit the pub a bit early today.

I agree - I think Archer will be OK. If you're talking about the other one - then your sarcasm is noted🙄

Disagree on both fronts. Baker would be a very good addition at WC as a senior player in the age group WC lack quality in. And if he chooses to go down the road - then I imagine that would have ramifications for kids like Johnson and Erasmus who are now either playing out of preferred position...

That's rating Curtin and Barnett not far off evens. Stranger things have happened but be surprised if Adelaide did that.

Gentlemen (& ladies) - hope everyone is happy with what they have seen in the last month or so. IMO - the draft was a success and the pre Xmas sessions went well without any injuries. Football (like most sports) is a great way to escape life for a while. Im hoping most on here are going OK, but...

Disagree on several fronts.

Love it - probably best post on bigfooty ever

Todd isn't that tall - not sure exactly height but under 6'

Why Macquarie?

He was not really talked about TBH

Look - I'm the wrong person to ask given I love all the boys that I'm involved in selecting. But the kid did well in all the junior matches, made AA and conducted himself well plating seniors. Nice kid and determined to be successful- what's not to like?

He was playing under duress last season so he needs to be cut some slack for that. But in saying that, he is certainly under pressure and I'm not confident he is in their best team.

ATG - I think everyone who watches footy understands how the change in rules has affected Gaff in particular which obviously makes him vulnerable come selection time.

The timing of the doctor report & the need for a second opinion denied this It wasn't poor management as you state.

It seems like we are now starting to have some quality players competing for positions

Roberts & ZZ were my 2 favs after we checked out

Who the f**k knows

Can't respond on behalf of WCE_phil - but realistically all players outside of the top dozen have issues/flaws that call into question their suitability. The difference between a player at 45 in this draft & 65 is marginal and one is selected due to a feel/instinct and one isnt. It could easily...

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Time will tell although we would have liked Curtin

Not likely to happen but a good idea - I like it

Yes. Another year in system, another pre-season of weights & fitness. I think he will be alright

Good question - not sure as it depended on who was now available. I liked Hastie as well

Similar - all have strengths & weaknesses. Therefore local boy