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    Previously unheard of scores.

    Was this a senior VFL game? Which one if it was?
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    Crazy AFL stats

    Between 1897 and 1900: four teams had six consecutive quarters without conceding a goal South Melbourne in Rounds 10 and 11 of 1897 held opponents goalless in consecutive games, and achieved nine consecutive quarters without allowing even one goal! Geelong in Round 8 to 10 of 1897 achieved...
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    Amazing coincidences in football

    After beating Geelong in their debut match, North Melbourne did not beat an eventual premier again until they beat Essendon (for their only loss in 33 games) in 1950. Gold Coast were 11 seasons short of that record The first team to lose to Footscray and win the premiership was Melbourne in 1941...
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    Research Recent Deaths

    In Round 16 of 1957, on a very wet day at the Junction Oval, Webb kicked four goals out of only seven kicked during the entire match. St. Kilda kicked only 1.5 (11) for the game — the third-lowest score since 1919. According to Demon Wiki, there was not a single goal from a set shot in the...
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    How would other athletes have been as AFL players?

    Matthew Ridge is one who has always attracted my attention regarding this question. Very flexible mover, regarded as the best bomb-catcher in the NSWRL during his career, and a superb kicker of the ball. Pair skaters especially I have always thought of as strong possibilities for the AFL because...
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    Opinion Which players would have been the best if not for injury?

    Templeton is a tragic figure who would have been amongst the greatest players ever had he been able to stay injury-free after his 24th year. 1980 was his last-ever injury-free season. In 1981 he suffered a serious knee injury but came back late in the season in an effort to help a Footscray...
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    Stats observations

    No doubt they only did so because they had been so bad in 1971, winning only four games and none against the top eight clubs (though they did draw with Collingwood in Round 3). Reminds me of Nottinghamshire County Cricket Club only using players from inside the county until the featherbed...
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    R.I.P Neil "Nipper" Trezise

    Round 2, 1953 “Nipper” kicked eight goals against Footscray at the Western Oval. That was of itself a remarkable feat for a rover — Trezise never kicked more than five goals in any other match during his career — but when one considers he kicked those eight goals against a team that in eighteen...
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    Stats observations

    The following scores have never occurred as a team’s final score in any VFL/AFL match, although all scores obtained by adding or subtracting one goal or behind have: 9.27 [(81)] 10.26 [(86)] 17.28 [(130)] 18.26 [(134)] 25.8 [(158)] 23.26 [(164)] 24.24 [(168)] 28.11 [(179)] 27.24 [(186)] 28.20...
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    Opinion Which players would have been the best if not for injury?

    Unbelievably prone to injury. Apart from 1987 he never had anything near an injury-free season. Almost invariably he broke down in the first few rounds with a variety of injuries, as he did in 1984, 1988 and 1990. Yet, in 1987 he kicked more than 35 goals and nearly defeated a powerful Carlton...
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    List Records & Bests - Highest Score (ex-fp discussion)

    Glenelg’s famous game with Central District in 1975 is a similar outlier. It is true that the 60 goal aggregate was equalled by Swan Districts and Subiaco in the WANFL four years later, but the 396 points is unparalleled. Interestingly, on the exact same afternoon at VFL Park, Essendon and...
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    Previously unheard of scores.

    What is the most common final score in goals and behinds? If we look at single-team scores in goals and behinds, there are many within the range of goal and behind tallies observed that have never occurred, such as: 10.26 [(86)] 18.26 [(134)] 25.8 [(158)] 23.26 [(164)] 24.24 [(168)] 28.11...
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    Stats observations

    The most times a player has kicked ten or more goals against any one opponent is four: Gary Ablett senior against Richmond: Round 4, 1988 Round 9, 1989 Round 20, 1990 Round 8, 1993 Tony Lockett against Brisbane: Round 8, 1991 Round 10, 1992 Round 11, 1993 Round 9, 1996 Tony Lockett against...
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    Greatest upsets of all time

    The Age did not give Footybet for that game. I do not know why — can somebody at least suggest a reason? The Swans did not come back from 40 down. It was close for a half than Osborne exploded in the third quarter. Melbourne were suffering a let-down after two extremely good wins over...
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    Stats observations

    Some notes: I knew I’d forgotten Hogg almost immediately after I went to bed, but thanks for the other three! If my first five players with most career goals but no finals appearances be correct, then Hogg with 347 goals must be number six. It’s notable that among the players with most games...
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    Stats observations

    Poulter is certainly a somewhat strange case. If I am not mistaken he has the fifth most goals by a player who played no finals: Keith Forbes with 475 goals Sel Murray with 461 goals Alec Albiston with 389 goals Ted Freyer with 372 goals Ray Poulter with 351 goals If I have calculated...
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    Fact Current Longest Droughts

    Only case by a Demon since Fred Fanning, in fact, but it being the record really surprised me. It is also the solitary case in a final since George Goninon in 1951. Amazingly, there were four cases in finals during the 1930s. I will list the droughts for all clubs for your information...
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    Research Recent Deaths

    Elder brother of the better-known Sam Kekovich, he kicked four of Carlton’s seven goals in the windswept 1968 Grand Final, which would be his last game before a back injury led to his doctor recommending he retire. He crossed to his brother’s club for the 1970 season, but despite North’s...
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    Players who's career was ruined by injuries?

    Rehn would certainly be recognised as a great much more if he had not been injured. Consider nonetheless that the Crows won two premierships when he was playing and finished three-quarters of the way down the ladder in 1995, 1996 and 1999 when he hardly played at all. It is obvious such a player...
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    Career ending injuries

    Also Carlton’s Noel O'Brien in the 1956 pre-season. O'Brien would have been the successor to Coleman as the competition’s leading full forward had he been able to continue. For one thing, Carlton would almost certainly have played in the grand final against Melbourne in 1956, 1957 and 1959 had...
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    48 years ago today - Coll v Ess Vic Park 1972 QB McKenna kick 13

    Actually Round 10, 1970. Amazingly, the Magpies’ half time deficit of 52 points was only four points less than the total margin of the six games of the round — a mere 56 points.
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    Amazing coincidences in football

    Round 18, 1935 Hawthorn 14.26 (110) defeated Fitzroy 15.6 (96) for the biggest win with fewer goals. Round 13, 1985 Hawthorn 11.31 (97) defeated Melbourne 12.9 (81) to break the record above Round 8, 2035 will Hawthorn break its own record again? The way the game has been trending it seems...
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    The Last Players of Their Decade

    Harvey was the first player since Murray and McKenzie to be not only the last player born in a particular decade, but also the last who debuted in the decade two decades following to retire. As many as five players who debuted in the 1970s (Gary Ayers by a week, Tim Watson, Tony Shaw, Doug...
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    The what if thread

    West Coast might well have established a genuine dynasty with Smith in the team rather than seriously injured. They could certainly have averted the brief but very sharp decline they suffered between 2007 and 2010. Geelong might have found much more trouble winning in 2007, or dominating most...
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    Research Recent Deaths

    I was thinking about this as I recently discovered it. Although most famous as an on-baller, Kilmurray began his career as an old-fashioned goalsneak. People probably do not know his role in denying the famous 1953 South Fremantle combination a 22-game winning streak. Eleven days after his...
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    Gary Sidebottom

    Given that he had kicked 5.5 against West Perth in a 106-point win in heavy rain and mud just a month before, it would be amazing for Sidebottom to have been playing in the reserves! That game is itself sensational. If the conditions were as I recall them being described by The West Australian —...
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    Universal Love RIP Paul Sproule

    This Age article shows you correct. The date was 13 September 1985. Barry Richardson was very critical of the decision to sack Sproule. He said it was a case of and that Sproule had the support of the players for the second season he was given in his original November 1984 appointment. After...
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    Universal Love RIP Paul Sproule

    Only old enough to remember Sproule as a coach. He coached Richmond in 1985, when they had a few notable wins and stood second after six weeks but a weak defence meant they won only three of their next fourteen games with several big losses. I even remember vaguely the news of Sproule being...
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    Amazing coincidences in football

    More likely simply lack of finals experience. For Brisbane, Daniel Rich was the solitary surviving player from their previous finals appearance in 2009, although their team did contain Luke Hodge from Hawthorn, Mitch Robinson from Carlton, Lachie Neale from Fremantle and Allen Christensen from...
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    2025 Brownlow Medal

    Regardless of West Coast’s dreadful season, it is amazing. Even considering they won only one game, they were not as uncompetitive as GWS back in 2013, or Fitzroy in 1996, or Melbourne in 1981. Kevin Murray in 1964 and John Lewis in 1931 won more votes than West Coast did collectively, playing...

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