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Surely Cam McCarthy needs to be in the conversation. One of the league's leading goal kickers.

Palmer playing reserves, with Steele, Lobb and Pickett in the wings. :o

In a horrible weekend for the club, this thread is music to my ears. Great to hear he's showing a lot of promise, playing a very tough position.

His constant clangers are really frustrating as he can be a beautiful kick. Horrible decision maker and he's not improving.

Faded, but was in our best 3-4. Good at ground level and unlike many on our list, is normally clean.

They target Melksham because they know he'll fall for it every time. He's a sucker.

It showed an opponent's complete lack of respect for him. Even at the low level cricket I've played, I've only ever mouthed off when I was producing the goods.

Too small. Watson, Kennedy, Fyfe. All monsters.

For a footballer he makes an incredible athlete. But there are far more talented players not producing anymore than he is.

Stevie J shook hands with Howlett (who he was angry with throughout the game) in good spirits. He smirked at the Melksham, the smirk that says, you sir are a tool.

His behavior tonight was truly flog worthy.

How about impacting the game before getting involved in that sort of s**t, giving yet another goal away? Besides, SJ sucked him in good and proper.

Out: Bellchamber's employment, Melksham's ''tough guy'' s**t

Mark Tremonti and his band have put out another album. His singing has come along in leaps and bands.

Try to buy success (Judd, Malthouse) and when that doesn't work bring out this guy.

The Tigers were awesome, but Freo were badly off. Plus Pav won't play as badly for the rest of the season. They do need to attack for more though, going out to the wings constantly isn't going to do it against the Hawks in September.

Taking a stand against racism is laudable, but Goodes has managed to divide rather than unite. Michael Long on the other hand ...

Went Cripps to Rocky and Bonts to Pearce. Lots of Dockers now.

Busy watching endless episdoes of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I remember happily going to my local Milk Bar and getting a Sunny Boy at halftime of the 93 GF, singing the Bombers song - knowing we were going to be premiers.

Geelong could win the flag if everything goes right for them. Gee Purple, that's what normally happens if everything goes right for a talented squad. I should stop reading his drivel, ala what I did with Caro.

You're right. He never played on anyone decent!

They'll be able to rest players like the Cats did in '11, while the Hawks won't be able to. Huge chance this year, and it must be this year.

Most players in their early 30's are limping to the end. He's played 10 years after that!

How many clubs truly are professional? In Victoria the Hawks, Cats and Pies are very well-run. My own club doesn't approach Carlton's ineptness, but we're nowhere near those other three at the moment.

I don't understand why the board was going to wait a couple of more weeks anyway, considering they had already made their call. He was always in more trouble than Jon Stevens.

Gold Coast will sort themselves out, but besides them the Blues are the worst-run club in the comp.

He made some errors, but we haven't had many players with his level of class in recent years. Some of his short kicks into the fifty (when we were bombing) were very clever.

5. Hurley 4. Daniher 3. Cooney 2. Hooker 1. Z. Merrett Hurley would be leading our Brownlow votes at the moment.

Picked Cameron at the start of the year; a horrible decision. Until last night.

Come on Bont, winning easily but getting no ball.