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I am absolutely serious. Watch North Melbourne's first half against Carlton. You can see what they are going to be in a year or two. We might be above them on the ladder this year and next but on current list they will be in the mix 2026 onwards. We'll still be somewhere between 8 - 14.

Adelaide and North Melbourne lists are well ahead of ours. I'd rather their 5 year window than ours.

You brought back memories for me. I remember thinking the same thing after Round 8 in 1981. 43 years later and I must admit I am starting to get concerned. Next year is the one. I am sure.

That is exactly what I would be doing if I was his manager. Today he is probably worth $400k per year. In 2027, we hope he is worth $900k plus. He's not getting that money now on a 4 year.

The problem with Saints this year is the same problem we have had since 2011. The midfield. When you put our best three mids - Steele, Crouch and Sinclair(?) up against GWS or Dees or Carlton or Swans or Brisbane or Port - it is just not a fair contest. You can paper over that with committed...

Prefer the record for metres gained between Round 7 and Round 11 personally but whatever confirms your bias is fine.

The way footy was played pre 2000s - more set positions - I don't think it compares so easily to "midfield" today. You could maybe make a case for the 1995 Carlton team with Williams, Bradley, Ratten, Kouta, Brown, Camporeale all going through the mid. Since 2000 I think Eagles 2005/2006 were...

For 12 years we have been pushing the hope that our young talent will deliver. There was the Billings, Acres and McCartin era, then the Clark, Coffield messiahs. Now it is a another bunch of youngsters (who do look better). It is not about the list we have and "contending" now. It is about the...

It is a scary midfield. Not 100% sure you have the front and back ends of the ground covered but with those guys in the centre you almost don't need to.

To be honest, there are probably a few clubs you could put in that top bracket - I left Pies and Lions out for example. It was not meant to be a forensic assessment of Saints vs ?.......just a statement that we are not challenging for top 4, we are in a group of mid rung clubs, could finish...

To add to this dose of reality, when you look at the Port v Essendon game last night and that Port Adelaide midfield just coming into its' prime, you realise how far off the pace we are. Right now, Swans, Port, Dees, Freo and Carlton are clearly better teams than Saints and there are a few in...

You are right, his finals have been down on par. But he is just turned 24, I think he is probably coming into his prime and on last night he could be anything. That was such an impressive game.

That has potential to be one of the best midfields in history - up there with Lions 2000-2004. What I saw of Rozee last night, hard to see there is a better player in the AFL at the moment. JHF is simply going to be scary and Butters is almost as good.

Even St Kilda is eventually going to pick one. What did they say about Greg Chappell? Keep picking him and he will eventually hit a ton. Dont know why we would give up what looks like a good one for two in the bush.

Terrific. We could nab a McCartin, a Billings and a Clark all in one draft! Leave a Bont and a Trac on the table as scraps.

Eff me. 7, 8 and 35. What a haul.

Their biggest issue is that Tex is still their go to forward. It reminds me of Saints 2012 - 2015 with Riewoldt. Not in the right age bracket to rebuild around. Need to find a KPF and some more mid field class. List is solid, needs some stars.

I'd be targeting clean hands. Need to do our homework. Can't see much value in the draft.

Felt we could have gotten more for George - basically given away for nix. Hope the club has a bag full of cash. We need talent in the middle.

The sad thing about threads like this (and the Dusty thread) is I would imagine both players would be horrified they were being put on this sort of pedestal. Further, these sorts of stupid spec posts just invite a complete tear down of two great players. Really - GOAT, best ever, greatest -...

Too early to write off but Mitchell, Pendlebury and Sidebottom all looked like players the game has left behind. Not sure Pies can afford to play all three with the pace of today's game.

Just watched the replay and we were kissed. Got a lot of soft and 50/50 decisions. We have picked up Henry at precisely the right time in his career. Great effort by the team but more exciting is there looks to be plenty of improvement available. Once Sincs, NAS, Hill, Bonner, Wilson, Henry...

Was really excited about Henry coming over. I think he showed tonight that he adds a bit of X factor. Great win. Need to bottle that 3rd quarter and try and bring it for 4 quarters.

We are going to get a thumping here. Cannot get away with not scoring.

10 inside 50s, 1 goal.

Can’t believe I’m saying it but gee I reckon we miss Butler. Not going to get away with wasting these inside 50s

That is a tough first up assignment. That ground is like nothing else in the AFL and Geelong play it well. Kept them very honest. I do not think Higgins can play in this team. He is demoralising for fans and I think for the playing group. Something has to be done about King. He is just not...

Can’t afford Higgins.

Yes, be really interesting to see how Wilson and Collard go. Wilson looks like he is ready made, Collard less so. Pretty tough assignment first up. Don't expect Cats to be top 8 this year but they will be pumped for the first round and I just don't think KP is a ground that is going to suit our...

Is this BigFooty history in the making? A fair and balanced post about a player in the team the poster supports!! Not only a well considered post but right on the money too. I had not actually consciously thought about the fact that footy fans perspective can be hugely skewed by the player...