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CAUTION LONG AND NERDY. Hi All, I've recently become interested in understanding where our steps backward in 2012 came from. Based on this I focused on 2 simple and easy to understand stat's: I50's and R50's. This is not a perfect analysis by any means. However I think it does give an incite...

I'm dying here man, how do you come up with this stuff?

It's a tad different when your coach has already won a premiership, and nearly 2

He'll probably kick this :S

Come on damn it. Looking better but still missing

Huh? Troll? We should absolutely still be able to figure out a way to stop the worst forward line in the league kicking their highest ever score. You should apologise for calling that a troll, where does that even come from?

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if he is sacked after this. Players have been poor, but so has the Back/FOrward Lines.

We're flying lol

You're really that mad aren't you lol. Players have been poor. Coaching has been poor. Watch the game mate.

Forward line has been deplorable.

He is a poor match day coach. Can't cover injuries, even to average bit players like Andy Mac / Laidler.

Doesn't matter, we lose Ratten is sacked. Btw. Bell is having a historically poor game.

Bahahaha

In what's been a amazingly poor year, that says a LOT.

Bahahahaha got to laugh, we are a absolute joke of a club. 5 more premiership-less years and we are richmond status.

Ratten is gone

God, we aren't making finals ffs. Stupid post

5. Murphy 4. Gibbs 3. Waite 2. Judd 1. Casboult

Currently 3rd in the AFL for Contested Marks per game (trailing only Cloke and Hawkins barely) after only 5 games but still very impressive!

His game today was ridiculous.. 8 inside 50 passes, 28 touches and 96% Efficiency? God Damn.

lol there are plenty of reasons to compare the two. They're both supposed to be KPP (regardless of the fact Watts has been used as a tall utility), went after each other in the draft oh and A PRODUCTIVE FOOTBALLER IS A PRODUCTIVE FOOTBALLER REGARDLESS OF POSITION. Comparing them as Rucks? Stupid...

lol Watson should win it, Thompson will lose too many votes to Dangerfield and a like. Boyd lol no.

Wrong. Christiansen NEEDS to make it. Dead set gun

It will be interesting to see the route the dogs go. IMO as a small market team the Sydney model of picking up players at under market value and then hoping for some gems in the draft is the way to go. Griffin is a gun, some of their young mids will help form a unit. Ayce cordy is looking avarge...

There should be a eye rolling emoticon. It's not at all out there to think that a team that has lost 14 of their past 15 games at a ground against mostly middling to poor opposition would stuggle to perform there come finals time against the top teams in the AFL.

Why are you mad though? It is because your team lost to the Blues with no judd, waite, simpson, robinson, kruezer, hendo, laidler, hampson, warnock, walker half a Murphy, half a Carrazzo and with Bower/russell IN. It's probably that.

What a horrendous post. Wins at the MCG in 2012: 0/1 Wins at the MCG in 2011: 0/4 Wins at the MCG in 2010: 0/4 See a trend? But yeah, make it about Carlton. So Insecure.

They are imo in the worst position of any club going forward. Poor drafting (and 2 of their best value picks left them!) and an aging top end will cause massive problems going forward. But then again, could rebound and find somthing I can't see.

This one is wrong, we were 3 Wins, 1 Draw. Still awful, but not historically so