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Tex throwing his head back at the end there. Deserve to lose you cheat.

In the end, you simply can't launch the way Maynard did, and not be responsible for the outcome. There has to be a duty of care to other players and if this is dismissed, you can guarantee the rules will be adjusted over summer, as this cannot be part of the game anymore. Too many old players...

Yes, understand. I think however that the 50k issue is more the type of artist you would need in Hobart to get close to 15-20k here. Sure you can go to artists that get 20k in big cities but truth is they're medium sized acts that might only draw 7000 in Hobart, not enough for the stadium. The...

Tasmanian here. I want the team, but struggling with the stadium with the details we've heard. If the roof is 30m high, it's too low for cricket. No big concerts will come there as the population can't support the numbers required to put them on. You need 50k plus. As for comparing with Adelaide...

No win situation with that last call. To my mind the right call was made. If you pay that on a technicality, it is merely playing into the underlying belief that the game is being umpired without a feel for what is happening out there. If you do pay it, I think it becomes a bigger drama in the...

The whole last quarter Adelaide have been given so much greater leeway than Demons. Been frustrating to watch and I don't care who wins.

It can be but still requires luck. Go back every draft to 2010, and there are some handy players at 5 and 9 no doubt, with one or two recent selections that 'may' become stars, and De Goey (who is) but there's only one All Australian amongst them, and that's Stringer. It's still just a...

The reality is that in the end, it won't really help them. The best youngsters will still stay only for as long as they have to, and then climb over each other to get out, and we'll see this never ending rotation of top-ups for a club that won't survive. And that's nothing against them, it's the...

Geelong have been an MCG tenant through this period, and only got to play at Kardinia Park against interstate sides. The bulk of their games in Melbourne were at the MCG. This has now changed, and they may come to regret that as they play less at the MCG each year. Maybe not financially however...

Agree in regard to WC last year, however that is an anomaly in recent times. It doesn't prove that the MCG advantage doesn't exist. And also agree Richmond smoked them yesterday, vastly superior. However it doesn't negate the ongoing trend that the MCG based side wins far more often on GF day...

Totally agree. Went for the $$$, was a bad decision.

The AFL grand final is getting pretty easy to pick when there is an MCG tenant involved against a team from another home ground. The last 13 have had 10 grand finals between an MCG tenant and another side, with 8 of those going to the MCG team. The other two were close games, 5 and 10 points...

You can ignore the umpire whinging. I'd suggest doing that as the umpiring has certainly had a great effect on this second quarter, and as a result people want to talk about it.

Good reason for optimism though to be fair, the year before, the Bulldogs won against more fancied opponents on the road in Perth and Sydney, beat the reigning 3peat premiers and then a raging favourite on GF day. They had a very young list and won the VFL premiership. Nothing against Richmond...

This may be an issue but it isn't what we're talking about here. This is about a young woman not Jake Stringer. It suggests the outrage over this incident is unfair because of Stringer, which is like saying some guy was a victim of domestic violence and it's not front page news, so therefore the...

If that decision was in Perth or Adelaide, there would be screaming about hometown umpiring.

How was that not HTB against Buddy? Compare that to Heppell's in the 1st quarter.

Looking forward to 100 HTB calls this afternoon.

Struggling to watch now. Great game being ruined by hometown umpiring.

Hawks playing well but gee different rules for each team tonight. Hard to watch without getting cranky.

I was watching the TV yelling at Dixon to just start walking. He just stood there for ages. Just do a Ben Brown and dawdle in 50 metres or so. He just needed to move silly bugger because it looked to the naked eye like he was using up as much time as he could. I wanted them to get up too, but...

To be fair, when Essendon have missed, they've missed everything.

Kick > handball. Big difference. Take note bombers

Worse is Brian Taylor prattling on about how the umpire handled it beautifully. How? He didn't even explain what he gave the 50 for.

Between this game and Freo North last night, we've reached a crescendo of howlers. Does this mean Tuesday we won't even notice the umps?

Glad I'm not a saints supporter. I'd be losing it at the moment.

Real hometown umpiring going on this quarter. Seems to be a difference in holding the ball and the time allowed between the 2 teams.

No way Mennie should have been in front of Bird. Home deck where he specialises, very solid test record, versus what amounts to a guess. If I were Bird, who has been waiting patiently and doing everything required, I'd just think stuff it. I cannot imagine many players in Australia having full...

Regarding pick 48 from hawthorn, is that a live pick for Gold Coast? If they wouldn't be using it then it is worth nothing. Also is it true that he would only go in the national draft if released from his contract early? When does his contract end? Is this after the ND, meaning it would be PSD...

Change the title. According to Chip Le Grand on the radio just then, the appeal wasn't dismissed. It wasn't even heard. Something along the lines of the players not bringing up their concerns at the time of the CAS hearing, despite evidence it was well and truly raised. The shafting continues.