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This will be an easy one for the Pies. Pies by 8 points.

But they do know, because the people that are dealing with them tell them. The MCC TOLD the AFL what they wanted so Non- Vics could play finals at their home grounds, the contract was to play all finals at the MCG, Collingwood were part of that deal. Would you like to go back to playing ALL...

And you know what those contracts mean, don't you? Money, lots of money, change them contracts and small clubs could be in a lot of trouble.

Why would I, but they do, that's how the AFL deals with them, and that's why we play 14 games EVERY year at the MCG, because the AFL have contracts and Collingwood are used to bargain for those contracts.

It wouldn't bother me, but I think it would bother 7, they pay the big $$ and they make a lot of the decisions.

You want Collingwood to play more Sunday games? How many? More than 7? We played 7 Sunday games last year. Why should Collingwood leave those slots for others, if they want them, then they can show they deserve them, it's not our job to gift other teams, like we did Melbourne for years and...

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I didn't mean that but anyway, Worm gets it.

Carlton and Collingwood have both tough opening games, followed by a bye for Carlton and another tough one for Collingwood.

I'm fairly sure it does and I am 100% sure the Melbourne v Dogs game did.

Don't Sydney get it this year and didn't Melbourne v Dogs get it 2 years ago, doesn't sound like a fixed fixture to me.

---------^--^---------- Hey Chief, how did you go with that poster who came out with both 6 shooters blazing? Did you get a shot or 2 off or are they still on the loose? Is it safe to come out yet?

With that I'm outta here. Bye all.

So you're back to focusing on Fadge again, this is not about Fadge per se it's you having an obsession with a poster, telling other to get back on track, yet you can't do the same, you are the one derailing the thread.

See what I mean? I made a post about my prediction for this year and you're focusing on Fadge and I, you just can't help yourself.

It would be different if you did wouldn't it? Most of your comments are about Fadge, so it's same same.

Are you actually trying to say you aren't a troll? BWHahahahahahaha.

Most of us have made our predictions known, but you just focus on what you don't like to hear. I think Collingwood still have the team to finish higher than Carlton, but if we have players who get the old man blues, then anything can happen and we could even go the way of Geelong. My opinion of...

It seems all they talk about now, so it makes you wonder doesn't it?

You have this very weird obsession with Fadge, nearly every post now is about him. He really has got into your brains hasn't he?

Well if you go back to the point I made when all this started, that is the point, so why are you even arguing?

Ok, I will agree with you, we are not a powerhouse, how's that? But where does that put Carlton? I would say on a par with Gold Coast

But thing is, when you try, you make it look worse for Carlton in doing so, so you don't seem to be doing a very good job. It doesn't matter what criteria you want to use, if you are going to pit Collingwood against Carlton, like you want to do, you are just looking foolish, Collingwood have...

Put all those teams above the Pies if you like, it doesn't matter. But remember the more teams you put in front of the Pies, the lower Carlton go. Just looking at your list there, that would put you below St.Kilda, just above Gold Coast.

Good for you, but ask yourself this, why do you have to surpass Collingwood to be relevant? Collingwood have nothing to do with Carlton, so why?

Look at them all, tell others to talk about the OP, and all they do is gang up on one poster, I bet you don't even know how pathetic you all look. Now about the OP, there is a chance you may do better than the Pies in 24, but not one other team would be worried, you lost that scare factor years...

Devilfish?

Ok, sorry I offended you, just put me on ignore. Not surprised I missed the point? seems like a set opinion on who I support, could be wrong, but we will never find out because it seems you won't tell us your motives. You did say it, because how could one supporter group be smarter than...

Ok, so I will just think you lied then, because anyone that thinks supporting a club dictates your IQ is not likely to have an IQ of 140