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We live in a free market society in business world so why can’t football brains figure out that it’s education that improves things for your business or in this case clubs. Stop insisting on rules to either keep your advantage or limit someone else. It’s an extremely negative environment to...

Opinions from fellow pdfnl people please... Does anyone else think browntown represents AFLGM? Well I guess you’re saying that depends... When did he join? Well just before the affiliation agreement decision What’s most of his posts about? Juniors and rules and a lot about the failings of...

I don’t ever claim Firstly 13 clubs voted to stay with the pdfnl that’s a vast majority, despite the hardships they voted to not affiliate. Maybe just maybe I am in touch with how the majority are feeling towards AFLGM. Maybe it’s time you started listening to opinions that differ to yours as...

My favourite day!! Uh oh you sound scared... Bad luck for Saturday mate ;):thumbsu:

On another note browntown this forum is not a place where anyone who is an official is obligated to answer your or anyone’s questions. You question honesty and transparency from the safety of an alias which is kind of hypocritical. The poster you seem to have issue with is at the very least one...

You need to ensure when trying to undermine the league you keep up With your own arguments. See couple posts ago you tried to say that the league apparently planning changes 12 months ago meant that maybe they didn’t negotiate in good faith with AFLGM yet you also go on to point out all the...

Moderator can you please message me as to why you continue to delete posts of mine responding to browntown as the content have been well within the rules. Thanking you in advance.

Agreed. Change is always a bit chaotic when going through it as fear of the unknown has us believing the worst will happen and then we put everything under a microscope looking for faults and reasons not to change. Fact is board made its decision then clubs got to make theirs and here we are. We...

those complaining about the website how deep are your own pockets?? This league was paying $80k difference between cost of insurance and affiliation fees and for what?? Website and pathways from what AFLvic said is all I could see we get benefit from so I’ll put a conservative figure of $55k...

Actually that sounds pretty darn community minded to me. They are all local clubs. I was actually a Rovers netballer first. Captained their first junior grade side way back in the day and my brothers have had a lot to do with Rovers over the years. So to me Rovers and Blighty are both “home”...

Why not vent your anger at kids being used as pawns by AfL because let’s face it the ONLY problem we all have is pathways. It’s ridiculous the new way of control by AFL and if we don’t stand up to it we will be consumed by it. If we all vented our anger at AFL House instead of the board we...

Wasn’t lecturing you at all just pointing out Why would anyone put themselves through it.

It’s interesting that people want to believe our board is putting us through this for the fun of it. Seriously consider the personal toll this is taking on the board who pretty much volunteer their time. We have good quality professionals on there who know the meaning of confidentiality. I’m...

Nope. Geez you are a desperate poster on this issue. I don’t feed media stuff at all. I do press releases and letters to editors with my name clearly on them. Im well known on here as well and have the attitude that I must post what I’m happy to have as front page news with my name on it. I...

So you believe AFLvic acted appropriately last year?? This is the big over arching governing body that we have no say in how they behave and can’t vote them out we are talking about. Isn’t that pretty serious? Here is a factual story and one i can back up about Gleeson. When the dairy crisis...

if someone “answers” the press it’s on them how their character is viewed and in my opinion he was undermining the board as it sounds like he wanted all his way. Just my opinion you don’t have to share it but I am allowed to judge it given you brought him up. Oh and didn’t he stuff up the...

Nah let’s not gloss over my comments about the previous operations manager good try though. I’ll be direct again any person who goes to the papers in the manner he did was deliberately trying to undermine his previous employer that’s very appallingly form and he strikes me as very vengeful...

So an operations manager who wouldn’t abide by decisions of the board, a board voted in by the clubs, you know democracy and in effect is his boss is the person I should listen to? Not on your life that would be a man who should and could well be part of said boys club. His choice to resign no...

If true I’m sure AFLvic are relieved as it claws back some of the $80k they have been ripping off us for nothing in return. This is a stand to retain freedom and a say, if Shepp East choose to go that is their right to do so. Which is a far cry from the dictatorial behaviour we get from AFLvic...

IN a nutshell if it takes the knowledge of pdfnl to be given for the good of all then the answer is simple the PDFNL management team take over at the very least all of AFLGM then we will get things moving. Why give no knowledge Gleeson something for free sack him and put in a proven management...

Gleeson is well protected by the boys club as he had done nothing to warrant his job. He has deliberately been a divisive leader and if he didn’t have his “mates” protection he really should be sacked. Doubters can doubt but they should simply compare pdfnl results with GVFL results to see who...

I have very good reasons for never wanting Martin Gleeson getting any credit for pdfnl success. He has no regard for the people of our community and I can Back this up with facts. He needs to go as there will never be goodwill between these parties because I will never ever let that happen. I...

Do I need to spell this out for you?? Why would any successful business hand over their model to an organisation who will undoubtedly use it and claim credit and then try and use it to take over your already successful business. You would be out of your mind to do such a thing. Facts are the...

surely not?? It would have to be something to do with $$ maybe sponsorship deals?? Why totally blow any goodwill between parties otherwise?? Is it possible that AFLvic have sold sponsorship deals on the back of the ultimatum to leagues that they have to join their RAC ?? I don’t know seems only...

Yet it’s fair the hub never acknowledges the good things pdfnl do but publicly criticise the management of their best performing league. Oh please cry me a river that we may give them a bit of stick on here. Trust is earned.

Investigate who? AFLGM ? Martin Gleeson? Martin needs investigating thing is there is this mighty big thing called the boys club of AFLvic YOU may be aware of it perhaps but getting action against any of “the boys” won’t happen they are a law unto themselves!! Martin needs a public lashing with...

Am I allowed to admit that made me cry just a bit? Happy tears!! Right there is exactly what everyone is fighting for autonomy and ownership which means it has your heart and soul. If you can’t feel Sam Wright’s emotion in that then you obviously work AFLvic or AFLGM who in my opinion are a...

Nah, Gleeson is the head of AFLGM Dale Norman from MFL states he had not been given a deadline, Gleeson carried on about how important it was to have it by a certain date when it came to the pdfnl. So the slack admin is on him. One thing Ive noticed timelines are always used by AFL when trying...

Nah mate I knew you weren’t having a dig. There is an opening here to really change things for the better I just hope people are like you and open to it. I’m also on a mission the day a football governing body using juniors to hide behind and use as hostages is the day I decide I will tear...

Maybe but bear in mind pdfnl have five grades football and 8 grades netball it’s not just about senior sides. But the number one task is tell the hub and now AFLvic to buggar off. $80,000 in affiliation fees (insurance bit deducted now we know how much insurance really is) from pdfnl alone...