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Ahh, you don't think players are all instructed to call a club rep as soon as an incident occurs & the club have legal representation on standby who can request information from the police regarding any investigation? Why do you assume the Vic police are ringing Hawthorn giving them a running...

Does he have to spell it for you?

They are facing allegations of sexual assault. There have been no charges & based on the advice I've been given its unlikely at this stage charges will be laid. The CCTV footage, on straight appearance, is said to support the players, so unless there is other evidence found (its early in the...

There's a hell of a lot of people that can be involved so its silly to assume all leaks come from the police. There's plenty of people who know who the players are & they can choose to shout it from the mountain top if they wish. How many people do you think may have noticed in particular a 3...

Not if the CCTV shows what appears to be consensual activity, who knows. CCTV can save you as well as it can convict you. The whole thing could be scuttle butte.

Hawthorn knew 2 players were involved but were advised its unlikely to see charges laid so have most likely chosen to try to supress the 3 time premiership players' involvement. At this point I'm not inclined tor reveal the players identity. ;)

Do you think Crameri is a better player than Dawes? If Dawes is worth pick 20 then Crameri is easily worth the same if not better. Cramers has kicked more goals the last 3 years.

Averaging 1.6 goals, 4 marks & 22 hitouts as a no.2 ruckman is very good stats. Compare TBell right now to guys like Jolly, Wood, Warnock & Hale & I think its fair to say he is better right now than they were when traded (3 of them attracted 1st round picks). I'm not buying inot the pick 1...

Absolutely. Compare him to a player like Dawes who attracted pick 20. Crameri has a clearly superior goal average, higher possesions & only slightly less marks per game playing mainly in a side with an inferior midfield. Dawes best year was 2010 (premiership year) with 30 goals from 20 games...

Its called list management & something we only woke up to last year. Goddard was just about our best player this year. The names you've mentioned for Hawthorn have all performed what they were targeted to do. Hoping you'll simply draft a better full back than Lake or pick up better flanker/mid...

The battle for the hearts & minds or your average drooling moron might have been lost BUT the battle to save our season, staff & draft picks was very much still alive. No convictions & no penalties was the ultimate goal not trying to hope Caro or Phatprick changed their tunes. How much impact...

WHAT? I mean seriously does anyone actually consider there's a slight possibility that the outcome was right? FFS the player played through 22 round of the most intense scrutiny ever heaped on any organisation in the history of human endevour. For most of it the players rose to the challenge...

I am almost certain WADA have NO jurisdiction over domesting sports. The AFL have a seperate agreement with ASADA whereby the AFL retain the rights to any & all sanctions. WADA can appeal to ASADA or threaten to remove their endorement but they have no right to appeal to the AFL.

The AFL needs to now come out & establish a clear protocol of what IS allowed. We need to know if 6 injections per day 3 times a week of modifield plasma is too many injection or does that only apply when its Essendon. We need to know if its not OK to send guys offsite to South Yarra is it OK...

But again we are back to a situation where she was either a fake & we let her damage the club or she was real & we didn't get to address her concerns & get the positive PR from reassuring her. Not doing anything had waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more possibility of causing further diruption in the club. I...

See now that annoys the hell out of me. Why didn't we call her out? It couldn't have been any worse for us yet we meekly let a hoax caller (or at best a misguided & misinformed family member) undermine the club. The club should have held a press conference & stated that we believe the call...

If you look at how the mood shifted I think its pretty obvious that the AFL got endorsements from the other 17 clubs to threaten us with something most likley expulsion. The AFL could not remove a foundation club by itself so would need most possibly all other presidents to agree (I believe this...

I'd like to take this opportunity to once again thank Peter Jackson for being the CEO for over a decade where the club fell so far behind the competition in every way & we were left with a legacy of the worst facilities in the league & a shambolic administration. Your circle of failure is now...

We had a relly good chance of winning our case before we agreed to the sanctions now there is no legal recourse. We were obvioulsy bullied into acceptance. In the offseason, you will see a little notation hidden somewhere in the paper stating that the charges against Reid have been withdrawn...

Ah, the time to do that was in Feb. Once Hird had called for & recieved the backing of the club & supporters it should have been played out to the end. The interests of the club were best served by getting the absolute truth out in the open regardless of how ugly it was. I would prefer concrete...

I have defended this club to the hilt but I am struggling to find any sense in what we have seen tonight. For me its a simple issue - we either believe we are innocent & then need to fight to the death, take the AFL to court & risks the AFL trying to expell us from the league OR we know we've...

I don't believe that is right. AOD is not listed as banned at all. WADA have declared that it comes under the S0 category as not being approved for therapeutic use. I believe that category makes no distinction on delivery methods. There are other substances that are only banned under certain...

You've gotta wonder why the club is even entertaining negotiations with the AFL. What are they holding over us? I reckon the AFL got all the other presidents to sign off on the possibility of deregistering the club. Its the only thing I can think they would have left. They leaked & released...

This is why we had to keep fighting. The cost to the club for the next 30+ years could be massive. Once you lose your next generation of supporters you are doomed to a future of lower membership, sponsorship, revenue streams & you become a club struggling to survive without becoming subservant...

Which is why it's pretty much inconceivable to imagine that the club wouldn't have indentified her within hours....If she was real.

Why would the media want to report that the stick they have whacked us with for a week is very likley a fake. The club must must must fight. The "deal" being talked up is no farking deal at all - its a rape. loss of points is the MOST severe punishment ever handed down, add the coaching...

Never been so emotional at a game. When the siren went I absolutely lost my shyte, broke 3 chairs & unloaded a massive barrage of abuse at a Carlton flog who was giving me the shits all game. Once I'd calmed ever so slightly I must have hugged at least a dozens total strangers. I turned to look...

See I have a background in a related industry so I know a little bit about the TGA & the approval process (it takes 10+ years of testing to get TGA approval & only then if you can prove a defined benefit). For a drug developed in Australia its a more difficult process as the TGA usually just...

Do you think a lie is less painfull? Again I ask you or anyone else to provide me with some independant medical advice to support this agenda that we have put the players at some quantifiable risk above & beyond any type of standard. What are the real risks & why can't we know about them if...

We are the members & we deserve the truth.