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If you pay that no problems, just pay the same against the other side. They didn't despite some clear incorrect disposal.

Really I saw a flat, lazy Richmond that was second to the ball then get crucial frees in the last. 9 to 1. And you booed the umps.

I think I just watched a different game than last night. Frees paid they were ignored last night. Then in the last quarter gws got dropping the ball frees against gws and Richmond got away with exactly the same. Either those umps are cheats or they are utterly incompetent. Either way they...

Cracking game, both sides went hard at it all day. Lot of sore boys tonight.

Re: Saints are in disarray I lovett.

So whats new? Spent a whole pre-season and your side still has shocking foot skills. I am not a big wrap for ours but we are better than you.

Beams has composure and foot skills, exactly what we wanted. Did not expect to win this, but Richmond look the same, crap skills.

Thanks Buddy you exposed Nick Maxwell to everyone as the fraud he is. Not AFL standard, not a leader. Hopefully now Malthouse can see it also.

Sadly for the Pies this needs to happen. Too many over-rated players and the only way for them to be weeded out it to be exposed for what they are. Time to re-build from the ground up. s**t happens.

Mick will say 'he was teaching him to be a better player in the future', or some other bs.

Thomas plays like a millionaire, he needs to learn to do the 1% and take the team option not the one that suits him. He has a high profile and it is not warranted, time to make him realise you cant take it for granted and make sure the other kids in the team realise this. Use him and Maxwell...

Time for a major clean out. This playing group seems to think they can get away with half hearted efforts. Time to drop Johnson, Maxwell and Thomas and then some sacking at year end, don't trade them, just delist them and send a message.

Whats new? He and Maxwell are liabilities.

Agreed although I really want to see the Pies smash them to show they are hungry and kill inferior teams. It is what true threats for the flag do. We have not done it for many a year.

24 11 to 10 11 Last time the Pies won by over 100 was against the cats 3 years ago. First time in many years that the pies have punished teams when they play badly. Two weeks in a row, time to roll.

I have no doubt the Eagles will be back, once they get that 'toughness' to them again they will start to win games. At least you finally have a CHF in Kennedy, just hold onto Kerr, he is a gun.

I don't think you can really judge your talent this year. Too much happened in the off season re player conduct. I think the focus of the footy dept was diverted away from playing the game onto side issues and it shows. In particular the loss of leaders via trade and issues (cuz and Chick)...

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Trav has been off since he hurt his ankle against Brisbane, not hitting the contest as hard and lacking pace off the mark. Not trying to take anything away but apart from last week he has been really struggling.

Eagles have to keep Kerr, I know he has been a handful off-field but geez, he is bloody good and inspiring, the sort of guy you want young kids learning off, does not take a backwards step.

To be honest, Rocca being out has helped us as Glass does not have an opponent and we have had to go small and agile.

U sound like Richmond, all they could hang their hats on whilst we played finals. Carlton supporters so desperate they have to come on to pie game threads. Shouldn't you be out cleaning piss off windows?

Pies are really starting to roll now. No Rocca and still the forward line is functioning well.

Bet Judd feels the same way about some of his former team mates v the lemmings he plays with now.

And to think we have Geelong next week.........................

What a s**t game. Pies played bad, so many of our better players down on form so to win was a positve. Ross Lyon is an idiot, did he realise his side was behind? Flooding and not manning up?

Must be the first time you have seen Stanton play. Awful disposal, has been a dodgey kick since day one of his AFL career and nothing has changed. The fact he is seen as 'elite' at Essendon shows how much they are struggling.

Yeah right.

16 min mark, at least 14 mins to go you would think.

This is Collingwood, get used to disapointment and losing games you never should.