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We marvelled at, then questioned US Postal’s dominance. Then we marvelled & questioned UK Postal’s (sorry, the Sky bot’s) dominance. But f**k me, what Jumbo Visma are doing at the moment is just completely off the charts. they’ll be the first team to sweep the podium at a grand tour & the first...

well, at the age of 97, I think he just justified his selection in the team just gotta feel so bad for Van Moer. Missed it by *that* much

haven’t been able to watch as much of the TdF in the last couple of years as I would like - but I’ve got to say, I really like the addition of Bridie O’Donnell to the commentary team. She’s excellent.

now what’s happening back at the crash?

timed that jump perfectly

how much carnage can one stage take?

Whenever I see a Wanty-Group Gobert rider in a break I think “why are Mitchelton Scott wearing a retro jersey?”

On any kind of HC mountain stage finish. Five in a sprint? Dare I say “unprecedented” It would have been enthralling had it not been for the presence of so many UKPostal riders.

Bernal, barely holding onto the back of the pack on the last climb, does that up the first 10k of L’Alpe d’Huez? Yeah, right. Nothing to see here. Move on.

I know he’s a bit of a fitness freak but I’m surprised that GWS are allowing Tom Scully to rehab his broken ankle by riding the Tour. :p

A question for those who know. Just looking at the difference between what Sergio Henao and Oliver Naesen are wearing. Both National Champions wearing their national colours. Henao, you can barely see the Colombian flag on his stomach and back. Quite small. You can definitely tell he's a Sky...

To be more precise... 2005: Shimano–Memory Corp 2006-2011: Skil Shimano 2012: Project 1t4i 2012-2013: Argos–Shimano 2014: Giant–Shimano 2015-2016: Team Giant–Alpecin 2017- Team Sunweb

Giant Alpecin Before that Giant Shimano Couple of others before that

Gotta love this thing. Bikes worth thousands of dollars, wheels worth thousands, brakes, hundreds, skin suits, helmets shoes, all worth an absolute monty. Absolutely hi-tech. The bit of newspaper shoved down the front of your shirt for the descent? $1.50 at most :p

Greg LeMond went into the final stage 50seconds behind Laurent Fignon and won the tour by 8 seconds in 1989 - but the tour finished with a 24.5km ITT that year so it's not really comparable to a group stage finish.

Wouldn't have thought so. He'd gotten within 9 points before Kittel crashed out, with the offer of more points his way tomorrow. It would have come down to the last stage and been great to watch. But no. Not even close to a Bradbury for mine.

It's interesting and all moot now anyway - but you would have expected that tomorrow, where the sprint points are up for grabs after two cat3 climbs that Kittel wasn't getting any points anyway, whereas you could see Bling picking up at least some (and probably more that the 9 he would have...

Degenkolb clearly not happy, but there's a big difference between not t being happy and having grounds to protest and an even bigger gap to having such a protest upheld. Yeah he drifted a bit, but when he jumped vanavemat he was going wide anyway. I think the commentators thought with...

Yep. Love a good echelon, me. Everything just goes to hell in a hand basket

See, I remember it differently, and it's a pretty clear memory - but you got me thinking - so I've just gone and looked it up.... from Vino's Wikipedia page.... Although apparently you were right too - stage 8 that year was just as you remember - Armstrong chasing down Vino attacks while...

Trying to remember the last time I saw team mates work together to chase a team mate down like that. I vaguely recall Vinokourov being chased down on a stage in his last year at Telecom or T-Mobile or whatever they were called at the time. It was a long time ago anyway. But Landa a handful of...

"Aru looks like he's cruising" - Keenan If he cruises much more he'll cruise right out of yellow at this rate.

Quintana has form pulling this sort of bulls#*t before. It's why he's my least favourite rider in the Peleton. Quintana crashes, Dumoulin waits and then repays the favour this way. What a disgrace. He wins the giro from here, there's an asterix in the book next to his name.

And what was the stage where Yates was taken out by the 1km banner? I know the time was slightly adjusted but he was riding away from the group that included Quintana when he was taken out - enough to have the neutral service motorbike with him anyway. He's only 21 seconds down - did the adjust...

Actually I thought my question was far more relevant. What rules did they use to decide the outcome they did? You say there's no specific rule about running rather than riding - ok, so what, the race organisers have chosen to ignore the whole running thing and you say that's correct. Again, so...

Still didn't answer my question though, did you? Just hurled an insult. Last refuge of the desperate.

So once again - you haven't answered my question. Care to?

For a start, it's called a bike race - you know, with bikes and stuff - and he covered part of the course without one. I would have thought that if it's a bike race, you'd need.... I don't know... a bike, otherwise it's not a bike race, it's just a race. But seeing as you're a stickler for the...

That's what you got? Didn't complete the whole course on a bike did he? Everyone else rode the full distance. He didn't. He missed a bit.

Yeah that's what I thought - was very surprised. 2.3.031 No equipment for riders may be prepared or held ready outside the following vehicle. Persons riding in vehicles shall not reach or lean out.