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It wasn’t my hypothetical. I just weighed in when a bunch of people were saying they’d stick by Ross even after he’s burned Linton street to ground and pissed on the ashes.

Oh my word… That’ll do me here.

I’ve made it pretty clear on a few occasions that the last month has been pretty deplorable. Sure we beat Richmond but they look awful and that game was truly s**t all round. I don’t know what part of “where we’re at by mid next year” isn’t giving him leeway too? Again, nobody is saying sack...

I mean… the point being made was if we’re properly and truly ****ed by mid way through next year woukd Ross be under pressure and the Ross believers are up in arms like we’re suggesting he should be drawn and quartered JUST on last nights game. If you’re all happy to keep riding with Ross under...

I’m not but the list finished 6th last year, with injuries. Now we’re both full rebuilding whilst also making finals. The goals shift based on keeping Ross. I’d rather we assess what he does that what he promises to do. Who had the 3 year plan that just kept going? That’s what this looks like...

You’re not worth the time tbh.

A whole lotta personal interpretation for “basically said that”. Fair enough if you’re happy to keep him a year longer regardless of any results or progress. That’s a choice.

Seems my sarcasm was missed.

I’m not really obligated to have one but a coach having absolutely no accountability doesn’t seem like a good thing to me.

It’s ridiculous to come in and strawman a convo that’s been going on before you and belittle comments made in that context. You can jump in without context and get it woefully wrong and I can tell you you look silly doing so. That is the forum.

I’ve agreed he probably won’t. I’ve also flagged that that is not a positive.

You wanna jump into a convo midway through and then ask me to provide the context to it… Nah.

Hahahaha, bang on mate. I’m sold. Saints by 15… goals

He made us a contender nearly 15 years ago… not sure how that’s relevant now? Mick Malthouse won a flag 14 years ago should we give him 4 years with no pressure? Weird statement. I mean aside from last night he hasn’t done anything wrong but that’s not the point that you’re all missing in...

Except that… again… the point was he should be under pressure if by round 12 next year we’re fully ****ed. So I’ll state it… again… if you wanna back him in blindly even if we don’t win a game between now and then, which… again… is what you’re all saying, because you see “the plan” then by all...

If you’re gonna jump into a convo midway have the decency to read the whole thing. Neither of your posts have anything to do with the original comment and convo which I’ve articulated a bunch of times now.

Full time forwards don’t go at all. This is boring now, he’s clearly moving midfield, windys good. Let’s all move on with our lives.

Started last week and he’s in centre bounces tonight but sure.

Never said he was past it, questioned if he still had the drive and knowledge. And don’t do that. Ive openly said he was the best candidate and I still think that’s true but you and others and backing him regardless of any circumstances through to mid next year because you see some plan that...

Jfc. Read the full discussion. If we’re 2-10 mid way through next year he should be under pressure.

You watching tonight mate? He’s getting in there more and more.

Have they decided that? After we made finals? Odd, doesn’t seem that’s what many think.

Yes that’s perfectly clear… Stav respectfully (and I mean that) you’re a true believer, Ross could do an interpretive dance on his four year plan and you’d swear you’d seen the face of god. I respect it, truly, but finals and games into kids are juxtaposing and saying results won’t matter if...

So it’s finals now, but also just kids and the future? So what’s the benchmark for this year then? Games into kids or finals? Surely you can see the point I’m making. Absolutely zero relevance to the convo being had but go off king

But you yourself have noted it’s not just kids. When the cattle return were pushing for finals. You said that. That’s not just future. That’s the whole point.

Standards I agree with (although the jury is out on if he’s got the right personel) Clarity of list though… nah. We’re far from clear on what we’re doing or where we’re going.

You’re happy to say that mid next year we’re 2-10 and you’ve got no idea who else is available right now it’s just stick fat regardless? Proves my point

Josh Rachele in a centre bounce and getting a clearance in the back pocket. Weird for a full time forward…

What he delivered last year? A 6th place finish and a lost final? Yeh I don’t consider that success, I consider that progress, progress that now seems lost. I’d argue the fact you’re so sure of the plan and desire to adhere to it shows more blind faith than measured and considered thought...

Any other coach at any other team would be under some pressure in the circumstance Gringo said. The fact Ross probably won’t be isn’t a good thing.