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  1. stretcharmstrong

    Vic Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

    Okay, thanks
  2. stretcharmstrong

    Vic Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

    Prolly cause they’re white
  3. stretcharmstrong

    Vic Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

    They do, when you look at the naked stats. Once you normalise for relevant factors (socioeconomic, education, etc.), the disproportion vanishes. The discussion should be about why such a high proportion of Sudanese in Melbourne are poor and uneducated. Also, why is their population skewed young...
  4. stretcharmstrong

    Vic Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

    Possibly. It’s also possible that that background, combined with the situation they find themselves in when they get here, combined with probably in a lot of cases being a bit ****ed up from trauma, is a tough set of circumstance to face, regardless of their actual culture. (Let alone their...
  5. stretcharmstrong

    Vic Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

    I’m not sure what you’re talking about, I think you’re trippin mate.
  6. stretcharmstrong

    Vic Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

    You’re probably dragging me out of my depth here, I’m an engineer, I’ve never studied arts, history, humanities, etc. Surely there must be strength or positives for of Sudanese culture. I’d be very surprised if at heart they weren’t very similar to most other cultures not dominated by...
  7. stretcharmstrong

    Vic Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

    I don’t know, does that make my point weaker?
  8. stretcharmstrong

    Vic Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

    No need to derail this conversation, it is not about feminism or your grievances with women.
  9. stretcharmstrong

    Vic Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

    Hmmm, are you comparing the criticism of elements of modern western culture with the writing off or outting down of the entirety of another culture? That doesn’t seem valid if so. Going back to your question though - no, cultures are not all equal; but that’s a silly question really, as...
  10. stretcharmstrong

    Vic Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

    I don’t subscribe to toxic masculinity being a particularly prevalent thing, at least in my world. But putting that aside, could you restate your question? I’m not sure I know what you’re asking.
  11. stretcharmstrong

    Vic Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

    That was an individual insult, not particularly great behaviour on my behalf, but clearly not on the same level as a racist epithet, for example. And I don’t have any issue with the statistics, they are undeniable. And nobody has been banned, have they? The tension has come into it when we’ve...
  12. stretcharmstrong

    Vic Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

    It is to some people. But I’ll respect your more experienced position here and let it go.
  13. stretcharmstrong

    Vic Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

    I don’t deny that that is your experience and may be the case in many communities. That doesn’t make it universal.
  14. stretcharmstrong

    Vic Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

    By the way, I don’t actually necessarily disagree with that statement. Or at least, I do admit that some, on average, probably value it less than others. On average. It wouldn’t explain the seemingly high proportion of Sudanese young violent offenders.
  15. stretcharmstrong

    Vic Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

    Not many first generation from those areas these days. But they went through the exact same problems many years ago. Actually, still plenty first gen Chinese, but they’re almost exclusively already wealthy.
  16. stretcharmstrong

    Vic Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

    I mean, it is offensive. It doesn’t offend me, but I’m not aboriginal and haven’t been victimised by pricks like you. But I can at least empathise with people who are offended by the term and can withstand the indignity of lowering myself to not using the term. I must be a saint.
  17. stretcharmstrong

    Vic Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

    I don’t personally understand it myself, never been or will be in that position. For which I’m very grateful. But it’s not an uncommon thing for first generation immigrant parents to FEEL powerless to curtail the poor behaviour of rebellious sons. Language barriers, not feeling like they fit in...
  18. stretcharmstrong

    Vic Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

    And if the parents are helpless, or feel helpless? Not everyone’s an assertive, western alpha male.
  19. stretcharmstrong

    Vic Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

    Nah mate, 80s. Just made an assumption based on your shitposting
  20. stretcharmstrong

    Vic Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

    It’s not semantics, because dropping out implies the parents endorse it, implying they don’t value education, allowing the poster to draw unfounded conclusions about the race. Not sure how that last leap is made anyway. But there is little logic to these racially motivated views. It’s all based...
  21. stretcharmstrong

    Vic Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

    You really need to get a job young fella
  22. stretcharmstrong

    Vic Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

    As opposed to you, with your mouth full and face covered in protein most nights? I’m surprised you can see your screen or keyboard through the goo. Now how about you try making a logical argument in response to an opposing view, instead of melting down and throwing hissy fits at people with...
  23. stretcharmstrong

    Vic Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

    “Making things up are facts, der derp herp. I’m a racist ***** with no grasp of logic, herp a derp”
  24. stretcharmstrong

    Vic Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

    Nice work minnow. Soy boy? Darlin, you wouldn’t believe how much of my diet is non soy products, it’d blow your little mind. Be gone loser.
  25. stretcharmstrong

    Vic Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

    So can you confirm if you think it is also an ethnicity/biological problem too, just to be clear? Or is it only cultural, in your view?
  26. stretcharmstrong

    Vic Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

    Get a load of this absolute minnow. Swanning in and throwing her lightweight around. How’d you get yourself signed up to a new account again flog?
  27. stretcharmstrong

    The VEGAN cuckoo-land that is infesting politics and which farmers are fighting daily.

    Why would one not want to feel good about themselves?
  28. stretcharmstrong

    The VEGAN cuckoo-land that is infesting politics and which farmers are fighting daily.

    Yeah buddy! This thread just keeps delivering. More pls
  29. stretcharmstrong

    The VEGAN cuckoo-land that is infesting politics and which farmers are fighting daily.

    Because your response to my post made it clear you hadn’t really read and considered my post; you’re just running out the same responses as you are to everyone else, despite the conversation being different.
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