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  1. JayJ20

    Retired #45: Conor McKenna ☘️ - Returning to the AFL to play with Brisbane - 17/11

    Elite? Nah, especially considering he hasn't really played since 2019. He'd be ok to get, but I'm not fussed given we have D'Ambrosio, McGrath and Hind (technically Lord too). I wouldn't be mad if they asked the question and he came back, but I wouldn't be devastated if he went elsewhere.
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    Retired #45: Conor McKenna ☘️ - Returning to the AFL to play with Brisbane - 17/11

    I’m not really interested from a list build perspective. We have a lot of options at HB. I’d rather continue developing D’Ambrosio. I do think he is an upgrade on Hind, but we’re not premiership contenders so I’m not too fussed.
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    Coaching Staff Former Coach James Hird

    I was flabbergasted seeing the amount of people voting yes for Hird until I clicked to see who voted and realised that many non-Essendon posters voted yes. We'll probably end up with him because other experienced coaches like Lyon, Pyke, Buckley and Scott won't touch this place like Clarkson.
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    Coaching Staff Former Coach Ben "Truck" Rutten - Sacked for real this time - 21/8

    We were the number one tackling and pressure team last year, but that only gets you so far with this list. He dropped Clarke because Caldwell became available. Let’s not pretend we had the list to come close to Bulldogs in the wet. What I find funny about your perspective Bruno is that you are...
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    Coaching Staff Who was treated worse, Matthew Knights vs Ben Rutten?

    Rutten and it isn’t even close.
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    Coaching Staff Former Coach Ben "Truck" Rutten - Sacked for real this time - 21/8

    I’d literally not follow the club for the whole duration that Hird is coach. Rutten can’t have a bad year (after making finals last year with a bad list!) and Hird is welcomed back with no issues for overseeing what nearly destroyed the whole club because he is an Essendon person? Not on my watch.
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    Coaching Staff Former Coach Ben "Truck" Rutten - Sacked for real this time - 21/8

    Idiots. I’ve earned a break away from this mess of a football club. They deserve every single trade request, membership cancellation, complete supporter abandonment and wooden spoons that are incoming. They take their coaches, supporters and players for a ride. My moral values don’t align with...
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    Coaching Staff Former Coach Ben "Truck" Rutten - Sacked for real this time - 21/8

    To add to that, Heppell is the perfect example of a player that was asked to do too much. His body is practically finished at his age because Watson was never replaced. He should never have been the main inside mid. This is why I say it’s a list management issue.
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    Coaching Staff Former Coach Ben "Truck" Rutten - Sacked for real this time - 21/8

    Excellent. I would like this 10 times if I could. Yesterday they asked Laverde to play on Lynch because there is no one else with the strength to play on him. That’s asking way too much of Laverde.
  10. JayJ20

    Coaching Staff Former Coach Ben "Truck" Rutten - Sacked for real this time - 21/8

    I think you’re missing the point. They do recruit coaches outside of Essendon people, but make it very very difficult for them to operate. Woosha, Rutten and Knights all indicated this. This seems to be an Essendon exclusive issue. Other clubs embrace their coach as if they played for the club...
  11. JayJ20

    Coaching Staff Former Coach Ben "Truck" Rutten - Sacked for real this time - 21/8

    You're giving him way too much credit. He really thought he could get Clarkson from one conversation when North and GWS have been consulting with him for over a month. That to me seems like an impulsive, reactionary and overly ambitious person. His risk assessment is severely lacking if he...
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    Coaching Staff Former Coach Ben "Truck" Rutten - Sacked for real this time - 21/8

    I'd prefer to make the decision next year after the external review to give ourselves enough time to run a proper selection process. 2023 is likely already shot so we may as well set ourselves up for 2024 and beyond. Let's keep Rutten for some stability and make the necessary player changes over...
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    Coaching Staff Former Coach Ben "Truck" Rutten - Sacked for real this time - 21/8

    I hope Barham tenders his resignation immediately after the board meeting tomorrow. A leader should have empathy and the ability to have composure in times of difficulty. He failed both aspects literally in his fist two days as president.
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    Coaching Staff Former Coach Ben "Truck" Rutten - Sacked for real this time - 21/8

    I’m listening to Rutten and this is probably the most disappointed I’ve ever been in the club in my 18 years of following the club and we went through the darkest period in Australian sport. Disgusting how they’ve treated Rutten. Get rid of Dodoro and the rest of the crew and get this external...
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    Coaching Staff Former Coach Ben "Truck" Rutten - Sacked for real this time - 21/8

    The issue here is that it’s been happening under 6 different coaches for 18 years. Surely we have enough data to start looking higher up? Not even Clarkson would have made a difference if we keep going in the same way. My main issue is that this list is NOT built to defend. Undersized defence...
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    Coaching Staff Former Coach Ben "Truck" Rutten - Sacked for real this time - 21/8

    I don't know but if he chooses a team with 2 wins and 56%, then they've done something right. I do trust his judgement given that he's seen what a successful system looks like.
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    Coaching Staff Former Coach Ben "Truck" Rutten - Sacked for real this time - 21/8

    Fair enough, but I think our basket case problem is not on field (at the moment). It’s off the field, which is far less attractive. I’m sure Clarko looked at Essendon and thought “nope” very quickly. Though we have talent, he probably found North the more attractive destination simply because of...
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    Coaching Staff Former Coach Ben "Truck" Rutten - Sacked for real this time - 21/8

    The other side of the argument is you only really have one chance to be a senior coach. With the way the club is heading, the new senior coach could be out in 2 years like David Noble, Bolton and Teague if they inherit a basket case. The smartest candidates would hold off until next year given...
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    Traded EGM, Football Josh Mahoney - Footy Operations boss at the AFL - 28/8

    Removing Mahoney means giving the keys to Dodoro and Sheedy. Keep Mahoney and let him go after Dodoro.
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    Coaching Staff Former Coach Ben "Truck" Rutten - Sacked for real this time - 21/8

    Yeah they move on, which is why we need to give it a year for people to forget. Right now everyone is invested in Rutten’s treatment. Why rush to the Essendon job with all the instability and potentially ruin your coaching career? Keep Rutten and look for another coach next year (if needed) when...
  21. JayJ20

    Coaching Staff Former Coach Ben "Truck" Rutten - Sacked for real this time - 21/8

    I think sacking Rutten now will put off a lot of the best applicants for the coaching position as well as any potential trade targets we had, which almost guarantees Hird as the next coach and a lower finish next year. How Rutten was treated is fresh on everyone’s mind. It means that we won’t...
  22. JayJ20

    Coaching Staff Former Coach Ben "Truck" Rutten - Sacked for real this time - 21/8

    I do agree that Rutten’s position has become somewhat untenable, but I also fear that there will be greater repercussions regarding player movement if Rutten is moved on. The more we make reactionary decisions, the more we set ourselves back. We are left in a precarious position. The players...
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    Coaching Staff Former Coach Ben "Truck" Rutten - Sacked for real this time - 21/8

    This is a genuine question. At what point do we stop looking at the coach and start looking at the players and list management? A good club needs to be able to identify the exact problem. Why do we continuously end up with an attacking team that doesn't defend? Is it development or is it...
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    Coaching Staff Former Coach James Hird

    I voted yes thinking it was for another team. If they’re going back to Hird, then we may as well reach out to Dank and be done with it.
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    Coaching Staff Former Coach Ben "Truck" Rutten - Sacked for real this time - 21/8

    You know what’s witches hats? The list. The senior players are the ones refusing to defend. Give Truck time to build his own list instead of inheriting the BS of his previous coaches and judging him on the standard set by the previous coaches. The younger players have played well under him and...
  26. JayJ20

    Coaching Staff Former Coach Ben "Truck" Rutten - Sacked for real this time - 21/8

    Literally HOW many football clubs have bad losses or even bad seasons? Do they think we have a good list? Is that what it is? If the reports are true, they sack a coach in HIS SECOND YEAR? After making finals in his first? This club is officially the most broken club in the league. Even a small...
  27. JayJ20

    Coaching Staff Former Coach Ben "Truck" Rutten - Sacked for real this time - 21/8

    They actually did it. What a JOKE this club is. Absolutely amateur from top to bottom. You sack a coach because of a bad loss after all of the younger players committed to that coach? I’m sick of this circus.
  28. JayJ20

    Coaching Staff Former Coach Ben "Truck" Rutten - Sacked for real this time - 21/8

    I’ll give this joke of a club the benefit of the doubt and say that they didn’t just sack a coach less than a year after making finals. I’ll wait for official reports.
  29. JayJ20

    Coaching Staff Former Coach Ben "Truck" Rutten - Sacked for real this time - 21/8

    Nah we were the same old Essendon under Bomber. We lost to 17th placed Melbourne and 18th placed St Kilda who both won only 4 games for the year. We were just lucky we played North who by far remain the worst EF opponent we’ve faced in the drought. Imagine if we played Fremantle away instead...
  30. JayJ20

    Coaching Staff Former Coach Ben "Truck" Rutten - Sacked for real this time - 21/8

    From 2009-2022 we had 5 different senior coaches. We had the experience of Richardson, Rutten, Caracalla, Bomber, Mahoney, Harvey among others in various roles. Some of those people have overseen very successful programs at other clubs. During that whole time, the results have literally stayed...
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