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as you were saying?

Turn out Davester couldn't have been more correct. Bedford and hunt had career seasons and Jackson made the AA squad. Meanwhile, Grundy was a crab.

A future 3 is just about as low as you can get

pick 39 surely goes straight to Adelaide for McAdam. they may want 33

And don't worry I agree. I was never a Grundy fan. I don't rate him as a player let alone a player to be taking time away from the great Max. But the typical 'getting punched in the mouth' line doesn't apply here. Even in the pre-season games Grundy wasn't playing majority ruck.

I agree. but also with a dodgy forward line that apparently Gawn was going to help secure. It was all a giant mess.

But Grundy was told that he'd be playing majority ruck so that's where the misleading comes in. That's not speculation either, that's what he was told.

Thanks. I don't really care if we don't find another ruck to replace him as I think Verrall is going to be good. But I suspect guys like Koschitzke, Khamis, Chol, Gresham etc. all disregarded Melbourne out of fear of Grundy/Dunstan treatment. This is 100% speculation though :) These 4 players...

Well we didn't get the most out of Grundy. And as the media are now saying some players don't want to come here. If we don't get Matt Flynn, that's why. Players don't want to come to Melbourne because Goodwin over promises. These are facts. You can deal with the facts in any way you wish.

It's true. we've brought in some guns over the years. But I think we shouldn't be promising anything to any player. Just 'we want you on the list, if all works out we envision you here in this position etc. but footy is a business, you in?'

The proof is in the pudding though now that other rucks around the league don't want to come here out of fear of being 'promised the world, but play for Casey'. An enjoyable bump. Goodwin made the bed by overpromising and is now suffering the consequences. No wonder players aren't wanting to...

The link was posted in the other main draft board. But it was on 'On the couch'.

So now Jay Clark and Jon Ralph have come out and said that players aren't coming to Melbourne because they get promised the world at Melbourne but end up playing at Casey. I'm glad I called it out when I started seeing a trend in what Goodwin started promising to players. First Dunstan, then...

I sort of wished he went 1 more year. he's still our best lockdown small defender...?

his last game for the club should've been 10 weeks ago, but apparently Goodwin is a genius for dropping him. But then this 'genius' was also the same game that brought this spud straight back into the team.

There were plenty of people that were highly questionable of how it was going to work. Highly questionable.

Yep! But keep it on the down low :)

How cringe-y was the 'tap brothers' meme's that were coming out in pre-season. I said at the time that I didn't think it would work. This has given me the confidence to be more outspoken in my opinions. lol

Who on earth actually thought bringing Grundy in was a good idea? Like this makes me angry. Why did we need to see another week of this spud?

No way do WCE do that. it's not even remotely close. Grundy is worth very little in terms of draft picks.

Do you think we'll trade him or keep Grundy?

lol what do you mean? I'd rather have Joel Smith up forward and Petty back than Grundy in the team. I haven't wanted Grundy in the team since the Essendon match in round 5 where he got pummelled. I've been pretty consistent on the anti-Grundy train.

I respectfully disagree. I've never seen anything from Grundy. I'd rather develop Will Verrall who is looking pretty good at vfl level and throw the cash to get a decent player into the club.

I'm honestly not sure what made you think this way? He hasn't slowed down at all and it was purely role. Gawn has another 3 years left in him minimum. He has the body frame where I think he can play to 35.

Dude, come on. credit where credit is due. You asked for proof and I gave it to you. The story was about trading Grundy, not about what he was told in the off-season. So it's not a big story. It's clearly fact. Have you got proof that Grundy was told he would be playing 50/50 or playing mostly...

"It's different to the DREAM THAT THEY SOLD HIM in the off-season" - Barrett "He was SOLD that Gawn would play more forward and Grundy would play ruck". - Lloyd. "The SELL to get Grundy out of Collingwood i.e promising him the ruck role" - Barrett. "What he was spoken to about and what it's...

I have no issues with not giving Dunstan a game. I have issues with bringing him into the club and pumping up his tyres saying 'we want you go play an important role for us' etc. And it seems Goodwin did the same thing with Grundy saying he'd be playing majority ruck. Which never happened.

Nah I think that would be fine. Grundy has never been given the solo ruck role though and Dunstan has never really been given a go. This is not to say that I think he deserves to be best 22 but don't you think it's highly unusual for Dunstan to leave stkilda because he wasn't being given a go...

Obviously best 22 spots are never guaranteed but players that want opportunity will be having extensive discussions about their role for the team etc. Like when Matt Crouch is looking for a new club, do you think him and his manager are going to go to a club where he is considered purely...

I think the evidence is there. there was that online documentary where Goody, Tim Lamb, Dunstan and his manager were all in the same room talking about his role etc. It was pretty clear that they selling him a best 22 role. The link to the doc has been posted in this thread. but now Grundy has...