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I'm no Carlton fan, however every team in the league who has a free player in defense who either is a great runner or a great intercept mark. Jones is neither. Rowe is a much better KPD, so not sure Jones should get a game if he can't defend a KPF. Fisher looks very good btw. Will be a gun in...

Then it wont happen. I was just responding to scomac's post.

Well it's Carlton who are the ones who will instigate the trade so they will not get as much as they want. I couldn't see WC offering Stevens+2nd round pick.

I'm sure WC would take Yarran. Maybe Yarran for Koby Stevens+3rd round pick or something like that?

What the hell was that Post???!!! Absolutely pathetic how long do you want to hold it! Get him in the red vest!

Smart little soccer behind there.

They were before last night when the Swans were raped by the umpires. A terrible weekend of umpiring this week. No consistency at all and some strange decisions that nobody could understand.

No it didn't WC beating Carlton decided that.