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There's only 1 President with arguably a bigger media profile than Koch and for once he's keeping his big mouth shut because a) his club isn't really impacted and b) his club had their own drug scandal less than 12 months ago.

You know what? I kind of agree. Did Monfries himself disclose to Port that he had been involved in a injecting regime whilst at Essendon? Was this in fact his main driver in leaving the Bombers? Is being asked these things a part of the trade negotiations? If it is, did he lie? Who knows...

Rohan is Bunk.

Have stayed away from these threads as it is circular and exhausting, but which club supporters are barracking hardest for Essendon to get the full punishment? North? Carlton? Hawthorn? Who? I know Adelaide supporters are gagging for it but not so much in the way it effects Essendon

Torn on this. On one hand surely Essendon desreve a s**t load of draft penalties given what Adelaide and Melbourne copped. On the other hand if they don't cop bad draft restrictions I'll get to see the heads of my Crows supporting mates explode.

But Lloyd also said that Hird was a smart guy, so I'm not sure you can believe what he says.

Hird and Essendon seem just so petulant. Reckon they'll try and take Big Andy down with them.

Welcome back SLF. Were you on a Wada/Asada Ban all this time too?