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how does thompson know that if thymopsin beta was injected it was only injected to some 14 odd players? does he know something he is not telling...

denial 34 players all failed to declare thomysin on their forms for 'no reason' that he has no idea and cannot explain why he did not. he knows it looks bad. he cannot produce any reason what so ever for his failure to declare, and says he does not know why he did not. i am sorry but that is...

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/controversial-sports-scientist-stephen-dank-faces-2-million-legal-bill-20160318-gnm3p4.html well dank's 50,000 win is balanced by his 2,000,000 loss....

The Players were been injected on massively unprecedented scale. With supplements ("drugs") with the Intent to improve on field performance. No one denies that these are the essential facts of what went on. the possibilities consistent with the facts are one of three possibilities (1) The was...

AT least Mike Moore is no longer the softest interviewer in Australian TV.

James how about Dank injected those players with TB4 because you asked him setup a deliberate program of systematic doping on the players. The only consolation is the football journos watching this would find it so painful on a professional level.

The Players hours be asked 1 question. Were you injected with drugs with the aim of improving on field performance?

Yes I am comfortably satisfied. Right from Early on it was obvious that the program could be nothing other than a systematic doping program. Essendon were trying to gain an on field advantage by injecting their players with stuff. Conceivable that they could get off on some technicality but they...

So If Essendon got caught cheating next year for salary cap rorting they should not be punishment because they are so pathetic? Really are we going to embrace this as a principle that the punishment should not for the crime bit the current condition of the clubs long term competitiveness? if...

This Idea is Rubbish from start to finish. There should be no compensation what so ever. Yup is Port bought trouble up to them to do the tyre kicking. Hard luck. Really the uinavailbity of 1 player for 1 year is pretty small bickies. Once you start down this path the line is impossible to...

With organisations that break rules the principle is the organisation bears the penalty. They were running the club, if they do bad stuff the club suffers. Changing the managers or players means nothing. Look at corporations just because the board resigns does not mean the company can just avoid...

Part of the problem of the structure of football in this country is that the expanded VFL that just runs the top professional league, development, rules, marketing etc, too many hats to really be independent. The tendency is for one role to dominate when actors were too many hats/roles. In...

The Pies at least contended with Buckley, got darn close. How many finals did judd play for the Blues? they simply were not contending with Judd, were not even pretending. Blues sold out their future for a relatively short term of Judd which was a bad fit for the list profile at the time. Blues...

Carlton's bad recruiting decision dwarf the penalties handed to Carlton scary cap rooting. Getting Judd was a massive mistake for starters (Kennedy picks 3 and 20) 2004 8 Jordan Russell 25 Adam Hartlett 2000 Draft 4. luke livingston 11 trent sporn 15 simon wiggins 31 blake camel 46 Sean O'keeke...

1 James Hird at the very least decided to embark of edgy supplements program without any real supervision. 2. Essendon Board did not monitor what is going on with the supplements program and ensure the program is well managed, 3. Dr Ried fails the players by not taking his concerns seriously. 4...

Where was the AFLPA in all this? Have they reviewed their own performance ? Why didnt any of the players come to the AFLPA for advice? the AFLPA and the Player Agents the two groups of people charged with looking after the players seem to just get a free pass in all this. Surely at the very...

Why has there been no mention of the role of Player Agents in the whole epic saga. They are the ones meant to be looking after the players, did none of the players ever talk to their mangers about this?

For governance issues. Running a sloppy program. Now that Essendon have been found guilty of systematic doping much more substantial sanctions for this would be entirely reasonable. Much much more serious offence. They should be punished and seriously, However I do not see it happening.

The AFL Should be now considering the apprioate punishment for Essendon Club and officials for doping. The slap on the wrist hated out initially was for governance issues, not doping. Surely now Essendon are comprehensively guilty of systematic doping, further harsher sanctions are needed...

They should just change the name of the"Essendon Football Club" to the "Cult of James Hird" James Hird is simply an embarrassment. Joe Hockey seems more credible,

Why didn't the Essendon players seek advice from their Player Agents or the AFLPA? This was a failure. Why and what can be done to ensure the the Player's interests are best served and the players well informed about any treatment. What steps have the player Agents or the AFLPA taken to insure...

This iS the blackest day in Australian sport. There is no doubt at all the Essendon were guilty of trying to improve their on field performance by system of injection of substances. If what they did was not illegal it should have been. This verdict, if a systemic failure of the system and lays...

I would have a approved list rather than a banned list. The AFL could have implemented it;s own code on top the the WADA code and made everything transparent and fair. I think a stricter, much better defined system. All player treatment should be approved by and logged with the AFL. To inject...

SO the questions now are how can the players respond and minimises their sanctions. Did they take all reasonable steps to ensure that what they were injected with was legal? Was seeking assurances from Essendon enough? Did they co-operate with the investigation? These are the questions Asada...

Throughout this saga James Hird has acted like he is bigger and more important than the Essendon football club. he *IS* some sport of egomaniac narcissist. But the stranger thing is the Essendon Football Club has acted the same way, the Jame Hird is more important than the Essendon football...

Hmm The players were being injected regularly with substances to improve their performance on the field. Either they were illegal or Essendon were exploiting a loophole in the doping rules. If the players were not aware that the Essendon program was at best skirting the edge of legality they...

SO the players decision to plead or co-operate should be based on evidence against them? Oh you got me cold you have all the evidence, OK I'll plead guilty and cooperate then. Shouldnt the Plea be based on what they think they did.

Astounded by this. http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/essendon-penalties-sufficient-says-afl-20140616-zs9se.html What the? IF Essendon down the track is convicted of running an organized doping violation the AFL is saying no further penalties? SO either the players get whacked or no one...

IF Essendon are guilty of systematic doping, they should be whacked hard James Hird and Key decision makers to get a life time ban. Essendon to be excluded from the first four rounds of the next 3 drafts Essendon to be docked 32 points for the next two seasons. All current Essendon Players to...

I dont see the Australian courts touching this with a barge pole. There is an entire world anti doping system and judicial process. Much much bigger stars and organizations with bigger pockets than James Hird and Essendon have been through it, and running to their national legal systems has...