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No dissrespect Rogers but this was a comparison between the big four rivals. If you want some data on Hawthorn to compare lets have a quick look. Biggest average home attendance 39,976 (2008) Win/Loss vs Carlton played 158 won 56 lost 102 vs Coll played 153 won 57 lost 96 vs Ess played...

Thanks for that re 1902,05, I missed those and edited it correctly. In regards to the challange cups being called "premierships" or not was not a debate or issue back then, they were called premierships in every record and honour board found. Why would you want to alter history, oh I see you...

What about 1902 and 1905?

I know you mean no dissrespect to the feats of the dead but go down to the Carlton Football club and have a look at the history board that dates back to the start. We won the premiership in the years I have quoted, it was called the Challange cup and the teams that competed for it were some of...

The big four Victorian clubs, if you don't barrack for one don't bother reading this statistical post. This post is designed to get some correct information out there. Too often when you’re having a jovial beer before and after the game you come across rival supporters who talk their side up...