Yeah they are separate considerations and I don’t disagree.
I dont agree with the afl that he should be suspended even if the ball is his sole objective.
I’m more interpreting the rules for myself.
I think that if your sole objective isn’t deemed to be the footy, then copping someone high is a potential suspension, if the impact is sufficient.
He got him high, accidentally, while not looking at the ball. I’d say that’s careless.
I’m just pointing out how sole objective is interpreted by umpires. You have to have your eyes on the ball for it to be your sole objective, according to how the front on contact rule is applied.
Sole objective is interpreted for front on contact as eyes on the ball.
If he’d missed head in his spoil attempt it still would have been a free against for front on contact because he wouldn’t have been deemed to have made the ball his sole objective.
The new laws are out: https://sanfl-content.imgix.net/content/uploads/2021/02/18144238/2021-Laws-of-the-Game-WEB.pdf
They have changed the protected zone for kickins (in addition to extending the mark). So now no one can be within 24m of goal all the way to the boundary.
And the wording...
Interestingly, the official match report doesn't list concussion. Maybe that's just because it wasn't picked up until he was tested for it at the hospital?
Will we see the plastic chair called to give evidence?
"I put it to you plastic chair, that you were in fact responsible for deflecting Mr Guelfi into the fence head first, when he otherwise would have hit the fence with his body.
Your silence says it all. I rest my case."
I reckon his head did hit the fence. But those stills certainly don't show it. Could have been his left shoulder.
Or perhaps his left shoulder bounced off the chair, then his head went into the fence as a result. I guess we will only know if the eagles appeal.
I don't think he would get off...
I think his intention was to climb the post to block a kick, not to shake it.
A poorly written rule. If climbing is banned it should just say it.
No free kick IMO.
His level of dogness comes down to the intent.
If he meant to punch him in the head then 100% dog.
If he meant to punch him on the body then just as much a dog as everyone else who had done this.
This is separate to the punishment though. You punch someone high you do the time.
Yeah.
He will get 6+ though surely.
I genuinely believe he didn’t try to hit him in the face (in just guessing here like everyone is) but if you intentionally punch someone and break their jaw then you are gone for a long time.
I just watched it for the first time. On the rules - it's 100% a kick and therefore a goal.
But I'm not sure if this angle has been discussed, at what point does it become kicking in danger?
If someone throws the ball up and then fly kicks it the same time that someone else tries to grab it...
I got in a debate about holding the ball. As a result I tried to educate myself as best as I can.
I feel like I understand it now, but just throwing this out there so I can be corrected (or to confirm that this is accurate).
The rules are here...
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