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Never heard of it so just looked it up, looks good.

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He has talent, no doubting that, lots of pressure on him now though, pressure he'd never feel at the Sun's, he certainly didn't handle it tonight.

What's your point? That he was overrated prior to going to Richmond? If so I agree.

Lockett would kick St Kildas entire score though, that's the way it was back then, if your FF didn't kick 5 you pretty much lost the game, you may as well compare AFL to basketball, because basketball has about the same amount of relevance as AFL today has with AFL of the 80s.

Missed 4 or 5 sitters tonight, shiat players don't get the opportunity to miss 5 goals, will be much better when they get some players back, Jack in particular.

Yet I wouldn't call it a stellar Brown game, as I said, he's one of the few players in the comp who play FF (as he just clunks a mark) so kicking 2-3 per game isn't anything worth calling home about. I actually made this thread because I rate him highly (very highly), bloodlines trace him back...

Goals per game isn't everything mate, was a contested marking beast last year.

Seen a lot of North last year, nothing has changed from the way they play, Brown is one of the very few players in the comp who play something resembling a FF of yesteryear.

He's back!! Thread has worked, bill is in the mail!!

As I said I rated him top 3 last year, looked ready to tear the comp apart, but, he's stalled.

Considering they go to him at almost every opportunity that doesn't surprise me, he isn't playing well IMO.

Can't say I've seen a lot of him this season but from what I have seen he's been shiat, I rated him a top 3 KF last year, looks like a top up VFL player ATM, what gives North fans? Seems to have gone off since his staging hit the news.

You're going to love this season then.

Success came off the back of an incredibly light injury list.

Did i say that dumb ass?

So 18th is as successful as 2nd? FMD!

Rubbish, making finals is success, winning finals is success, might be the ultimate success but it's still success. You *ers would argue the world is flat if it suited your agenda.

Do you know what 'Success' means?

Read what you quote then.

Making him a more successful coach, only a complete muppet would disagree.

Chris Scott, premiership coach who's made finals all but one year of his coaching career, V Hardwick? Why are you laughing?

We beat them on every occasion in 2011, 2 or 3 times, not sure about 2010. Edit, it was 1 all in 2010 and we beat them twice in 2011.

Well we beat you at least twice in 2011, one being a prelim, we only lost to one side that year, we may have even beaten you 3 times if we played you twice during the HaA, not sure if we did though. Did we beat you in 2010?

Mick was loved for his belittling of journos, his pressers were epic - compulsive viewing, especially after a loss, give me a Mick presser over a Buckley-Dimma love fest anyday. Bomber Thompsons pressers were also entertaining in an awkward kind of way.

Kden, i get the feeling you have more to add, don't be shy now.

Is that a bad thing from an opposition fans perspective though? Cat fans don't wanna hear how good their opponant was, they just wanna know how they'll beat them next time. FMD, STOP THE PRESS, AN AFL COACH IS ARROGANT. Lol. He's a more successful coach than Hardwick after all.

I loved Mick, and i think it's fair to say he wasn't the most gracious coach going around, IMO Cat fans like Pies fans (under Mick) couldn't give a flying * how 'gracious' the coach was, it's more about insecure opposition fans wanting a commendation, a bit like you.

Just staying on the athletics thing for a moment, shits me to tears when everytime Blicsarz (spelling?) Gets the ball we're reminded of his athletic back ground, fact is he isn't even the most decorated athlete at his club, Jed Bews is.