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One of the things I was thinking after this debacle is the assumption commonly held by sporting administrators around the world that there is a vast untapped audience of people previously uninterested in the sport who can be convinced to start watching if there's a new league, if we shorten the...

There was a good Economist podcast about it noting that its essentially a battle between open (with relegation) and closed sporting leagues. Owners do better financially out of closed leagues and football is a relative outlier in having open competition and relegation. They did point out that...

BigFooty ESL thread outlasts ESL.

Agree. I think it's a combination of some business people stepping outside their avenue of expertise, which happens all the time. "I made it in investment banking, I must be able to create a new European football league!" or "I made it in New York real estate and show business, I could be...

Not sure if Bostonian is English but this is a common point of view. I was surprised when I lived there that fans didn't bother watching the World Cup once England went out. Have adopted some of that now. I generally don't watch non-West Coast games. Too much else to do.

No, screwed if they accept it. If they don't and expel the clubs, the Super League will fold.

Somewhat, but for a club you'd effectively be telling your supporters "we have given up and will now be making up the numbers because the additional money coming to the Big 6 means we can't match their spending."

Which is why I can't see the domestic leagues allowing those teams to stay. You'd be voting for your own demise.

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/european-super-league-how-would-the-premier-league-have-looked-over-the-past-10-years-without-the-big-six

Calling Port fans.

Spurs are going to be the Nikita Mazepin of the Super League.

Yeah, this is rich man's socialism. Tottenham, here's your participation certificate...

Interesting side note to the main show: women's game could be undermined by ESL: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/apr/19/european-super-league-could-end-up-halting-growth-of-womens-game

Thanks, saw this image this morning and couldn't find it again. Would also be good to see their recent financial losses as detailed in this article: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/apr/19/super-league-plan-english-clubs-european-football

Also worth watching is the Netflix dock, Maradona in Mexico, about his time there as a coach of bottom side Dorados:

Well, better than a Commodore sure but then what isn't?

This idea that we're insular because we don't necessarily care whether a particular sporting competition comes to our country, is a straw man. Here's a hypothetical. Say China played a summer sport that was as popular there as AFL is here and FIFA needed to use their stadia. Do you honestly...