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Discordianism operation mindf!@k

Don't forget the financial aspects, books, speaking tours, merchandise, donations etc. Some guys make a living off this and have good incentive to protect their turf.

any IT gurus wish to comment on the veracity of this guys conclusions regarding the discrepancy in the time stamps of the 'audio recordings' released by the Ukraine.

The facade was an aluminium and steel lattice, not concrete. If the material has insufficient strength it will fail, if it does then it won't.

No problem. And yes not impossible, nothing is impossible, I always way up possible vs probable.

well, I'd say I'm non committed. I don't have an issue with the failure mechanism of the collapse, I have an engineering background, and the mechanism described complies with engineering principles. Whilst the alternatives do not. I think there are a number outstanding questions regarding...

Controlled demolition / no planes theory = disinformation campaign get everyone bogged down in a trivial debate of science vs pseudo science, and distract them from asking the important questions

you seem to be ok with youtube though, do you know who owns them?

1. the buildings were not in free fall, do the maths you can work that one out yourself. 2. They didn't fall on their footprint, adjacent buildings were damaged and debris was many blocks away. 3. Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it hasn't happen, it's not like baking a cake...

so you acknowledge that fire can cause collapse?

office fires burn at over 1000 degrees Celsius, jet fuel is only the ignition. At 300 degrees creep starts to occur, by 600 deg steel loses 50% of its compressive strength, by 1000 degrees it retains only around 5% of its strength. Hence why fire protection is so strictly enforced in building...

Delft University of Technology in Holland

I'm still researching this building. Just to correct some of your terminology, if your referring to the facade being concrete that doesn't qualify as composite as it isn't a structural element. Sometimes floor systems can be composite. Super structure refers to the structural frame, which is...

Wasn't that was a concrete structure?, in the same riots there were others that did, such as a shopping centre. Last year manhatten an apartment tower colapsed from fire. There's a lot of research into the destructive properties of fire, its why building codes have fire proofing requirements.

Controlled vs un controlled thanks kinda my point, if you're not concerned about the fallout fire has a proven track record, don't even need to weaken floors, the fire will take care of that on its own.

If it's a controlled demolition, I can't see how it couldn't be planned in advance.

yes if you were to do a demolition there is significant prep required

LOL I haven't even disagreed with you yet apparently I'm illuminati! You brought up your understanding of demolition, I pointed out thats not how it works, no references to wtc, just a technical fact. Let me use this example http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Canberra_Hospital_implosion...

you have very little technical knowledge I've deduced. Massive amounts of explosives are not used in demolition, its the prep work of weakening all the supports that cause the colapse, small charges are used to trigger the event.

LOL No difference between a GP and a cardiac surgeon either right.

In other words you made that up. Don't think you realise how few engineers specialising in tall towers there are. A sub discipline of a sub discipline.

the funny thing is, I truly was just taking the opportunity to have a crack at architects, and nothing more.

Well you engaged me remember, but I'm not here to support anyone, just picked up on the architect line, natural frenemies to engineers couldn't resist having a crack. but I do have a professional interest in this topic, if there are thousands of technical experts, can you name them, not all...

Well aren't we open minded fyi engineers are analytical by nature, hardly creative

I haven't watched the video as of yet, I was commenting on that particular comment. But as an engineer of 20+ years experience I'd be interested in what they have to say, particularly as the company I was working for had done peer review for the company that designed these buildings.

In my experience thats 100% correct, architects have only a very rudimentary understanding of structural engineering.

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Operation gladio

You mean like this one. http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Ten-trapped-one-killed-in-Bangkok-building-collapse/2005/01/10/1105206006513.html