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    Jumper clash fails

    Wasn't the only fail of the FA Cup weekend. Understand the very good reason Arsenal wore white strips against Liverpool, but good luck picking out players given in their wisdom the numbers were also white and player names removed from the back of their jerseys.
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    Best and worst grand finals of all time

    Agreed. I normally detest blow out Grand Finals to end a season, but my memory of 2014 (and I'm not a Hawks fan) was that they were just ruthless and it was stunning to watch them dismantle Sydney the way they did.
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    Players you thought were going to be elite but never got there

    Andrew McDougall at the Eagles. Was talked about as a potential #1 pick for a couple of years and thought it was the steal of the century to get a generational tall forward and home town boy at Pick 5.
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    Stand rule

    I'm not sure if I would get rid of it or not, but as I saw it there were two definite problems with it, one of which heavily impeded the increase in scoring it was designed to bring. Firstly, as many have mentioned, the umpires never adapted to calling play on quickly enough and we saw some...
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    Best 30 minutes of football ever?

    Could not agree more
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    The rankings (from best to worst) of the 125 VFL-AFL premiership teams

    With the greatest of respect, it would appear not only do we not 'know that', but multiple people appear to vehemently disagree with it.
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    Best 30 minutes of football ever?

    Fair enough. I just look at it from the perspective of, what if junk time had gone the other way, which it sometimes does. If Melbourne had gone into party mode and the Dogs had fought till the end, instead of Treloar's goal being followed by 4 Melbourne goals after the 22 minute mark, Bulldogs...
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    Collingwood 1990 vs Sydney 2005 vs Geelong 2007 vs Western Bulldogs 2016 vs Richmond 2017 vs Melbourne 2021 - Which is the best drought-breaker?

    Western Bulldogs for me. Hadn't even played in a GF in my lifetime and most expected them to go out in week one over at Subiaco....and again in week two against the reigning premiers...and again in week three up in Sydney.
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    The rankings (from best to worst) of the 125 VFL-AFL premiership teams

    This is where I struggle. If we're happy to claim that a very similar on paper Essendon can go backwards from 2000 to 2001, why could it not be possible that more than an average had 'down' years in 2000 or indeed, up years in 2001. I simply can't buy into the notion that the average output...
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    The rankings (from best to worst) of the 125 VFL-AFL premiership teams

    Gotcha and on the same page with you there as I have highlighted in a previous post. I absolutely believe the competition has stronger and weaker years for a multitude of reasons. Again, I wouldn't touch this exercise myself as it's simply too easy to pick apart the rationale used to make an...
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    The rankings (from best to worst) of the 125 VFL-AFL premiership teams

    I agree with much what you have said, however I don't believe season to season rolling out even the exact same 22 will replicate results. Jeremy McGovern 2020 wasn't the same as Jeremy McGovern 2018 / 19. Now multiply that by 22 individual variances. NicNat in 2020 / 2021 was different to...
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    Best 30 minutes of football ever?

    I agree, from memory without looking, even when the Dogs were in front by 19, the number of scoring shots was pretty similar. All I'm suggesting is for much of the week we've been treated to comments from the media such as 'Melbourne's dominance was such that they outscored the Dogs by 100 - 7...
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    Best 30 minutes of football ever?

    Two posts back I acknowledged that 'masks reality' was possibly a poor choice of words, but the point is surely clear. Do you fundamentally disagree with the notion of junk time goals?
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    Best 30 minutes of football ever?

    Honestly not even sure what you want at this point. I have described Melbourne's 15 - 20 minutes (keeping in mind the topic of the actual thread) as the second most impressive burst of football I have seen in a big game in my lifetime - when the game was 100% there to be won. Literally killed a...
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    Best 30 minutes of football ever?

    As I went out of my way to highlight, it was an incredible burst and one I can only find one to beat and that's going back 37 years. Masking reality perhaps a poor choice of words, I just the think the whole 'from this point in the third quarter they outscored them 100 - 7' is being a little...
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    Best 30 minutes of football ever?

    Definitely an incredible burst from Melbourne, no taking away from it. I do think the whole 100 - 7 masks the reality a little as there was some junk time scoring in there late when the Bulldogs had completely dropped their heads, but that just goes to show how quickly Melbourne took it from a...
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    Coach Season 2022 - First Coach sacked

    I don't see the Eagles sacking Simpson unless they started 0 - 8 or something horrendous. If they have a horrible year, especially if they stick with the veterans and underperform, I could see a stage managed end of season 'mutual' parting of the ways, as someone has already mentioned...
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    Toast Best Remembered Grand Final Goals of All Time

    Your second intuition was right - Wilson's was the 'cork in the ocean' goal from '92
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    Under-rated Grand Finals

    Think the two are intertwined. I recall on one hand enjoying the Qualifying Final win immensely and buying into the hype of the Eagles that year, right up until they came out and destroyed Adelaide the following week. I remember saying to a mate while we were watching that game, I think all the...
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    The rankings (from best to worst) of the 125 VFL-AFL premiership teams

    Interesting exercise and not one I'd touch with a 10 foot barge pole myself, so well done. Challenging because I see certain sides down further on the list than I would like to see them - but then of course have to remember EVERY side on this list is a premiership side. I do slightly...
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    Toast Best Remembered Grand Final Goals of All Time

    Aside from Sheed, Matera's long bomb on the run in '92 is definitely the one Eagles GF goal I remember most, followed by Hunter in '06 after the Chick smother, handball, shepherd. From a none Eagles perspective, whenever I think GF goals I picture Silvagni diving at the goal line and jumping up...
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    Who feels sorry for St Kilda - the only drought remaining!

    I'm about here on drought as well, for me 30 is somewhere around the mark as the magic number. I remember Collingwood winning in 1990 felt like the end of a drought, which was what, 32 years. At present I don't personally feel like it's been an extraordinary amount of time since Carlton...
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    Under-rated Grand Finals

    Agreed. Normally hate the GF being one sided, but that Hawthorn performance was breathtaking in it's brutal efficiency and in some respects so unexpected given they only just won the Prelim and Sydney went in favourites.
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    Back to back and three peats are kind of overrated

    Can see both sides to this, but ultimately winning a flag is damn hard to do once, let alone multiple times in a compressed time frame. In the 'for' argument that winning them in a row is over rated, I'd compare Hawthorn from two eras. I'd argue winning in 5 in 9 years between '83 and '91 and...
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    What are the lessons clubs/media/fans will take from this year that are true and not so true?

    True: A lot can change quickly in football with the competition so even. After Round 9, the term Richmondy was in full vogue and as a club they were a fair source of mirth. Even after Round 16 when they were belted by St Kilda they were 6th or 7th and considered one of the teams likely to drop...
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    Nominating a club pre-draft

    Given what he actually said and in all likelihood the question he was responding to, don’t think he’s done anything wrong at all. Lesson at just 17 not to trust the media. Does an interest piece in the lead up to the draft, answers an obvious question and that’s the tag line The West attach to...
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    Best Lists That Never Won A Premiership?

    Definitely the team / era I thought of when I saw the thread title. Remember thinking when they traded in Gehrig and Hamill, added Riewoldt and Kozi, all with a midfield of Harvey, Hayes, Ball and Dal Santo and the likes of Goddard etc that they could be scary good. Maguire looked a KPD star in...
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    Six points, Why?

    Article a couple of years ago quotes AFL Historian as not knowing exactly why 6 points was chosen, but running with the mostly likely explanation being the link to cricket. The six points for a goal and one for a miss is most likely related to cricket scoring, Hutchinson says. “Cricketers...
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    Were West Coast really a 'state team' in the early 90s?

    Bit disingenous to exlude Dunstall, Brereton (14 state games), Ayres (6 state games), Ben Allan (several games for W.A), Hall (20 games for SA according to Wiki though that seems high), Tuck (11 state games) and Mew (team of the century CHB and state rep). No reasonable or fair minded Eagles...
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    Highest scoring round in history

    Incredible year. Perth averaged over 100, yet still ended up with a percentage of only 64.97 after coughing up 157 points per game. Ralph and Beasley both kicked well over 100, the Krakouer brothers were tearing it up, even a young Laurie Keene kicked 9 for Subiaco and that was a couple of...
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