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Urrghh. At least Laurence Angwin and Karl Norman were a bit grittier.

Didak, Swan, De Goey, Crisp Seems the off field stuff gives these guys a harder edge on field. Certainly not condoning their actions or approving of character, but sometimes I lament Carlton's choir boys only recruitment stance of the past 10 years. Fev went alright as a player.

And everybody knows that the name has now changed. Do we cater for those who don't want to acknowledge the change or do we cater for what it's fair and just? Don't dismiss it. Also, nobody but her family and friends have known her for 50 years and used the name so much that it's a genuine...

You seem to be assuming she hasn't changed her name, going by your follow up. Just because you can't get your head around these issues, it doesn't mean that people can't advocate for them. I mean, the dinosaurs did die out and so too will intolerance towards trans people. There will always be a...

This might stop clubs playing around with players they want to keep. There has been a gentlemen's agreement in place, or at least implied. I wonder if it's simply a matter of not being scared of the Suns being able to poach a player back the other way? If so, the Suns are going to have to get...

Fair dinkum. He lost his daughter and he's an idiot? Poor form. His daughter was not an infant potentially wandering around on her own. He has a right to advocate for other parents missing their children, adult or otherwise. The point is if you don't know what happened to them, there is a...

Where's the data?

Then why did their cases get that sort of coverage? How do they choose? That's the point being made. Care about all of them. For the record I followed both of those cases and have been devastated and exhilarated in equal measure. I don't begrudge them one second of the coverage they got.

I'm not sure. Gabby Petito's Dad made the same point, in that all missing persons should be getting the same coverage and effort. No better time than in the midst of it when people are listening.

Bailey did a bad bad thing

I heard he killed him, stole his van and then took his parents camping. * God, don't strike me dead.

I think I'd rather a coach undervalue my team than overvalue. Malthouse signed with us after we told him we were close and just needed the finishing touches. He wasn't honest until his job was under threat. David Parkin in his second stint at Carlton, told us we were pretty bad and getting...

We also got Kennedy, De Koning and half of McGovern with Crows trades. De Koning is the one who could be a gun.

I've never played that game. I guess I'm a nerd for not grabbing someone's junk. Oh to be a real man ...

I feel for those blokes who suffer because they're not allowed to grab their mate's junk anymore. What message are we sending to our kids if they grow up thinking a harmless grope is wrong?

Pressure on the entire community huh? How many laws has everyone here broken during this time?

Most people are vulnerable when the sun gets in their eyes.

Wait, I thought we were doing a Robert Walls transition.

I hope the sitcom writers are subscribed to this thread. Champagne comedy.

What's Norm Smith doing these days?

Yup. McKay, Curnow, McGovern, Casboult, Silvagni, Kerr ... definitely need another key forward.

Carlton recruiting a player over 26? You're having a laugh.

Are you saying Shiel is an average senior player? Picking up Palmer and Sumner for nothing is one thing, but are we really going to get bagged if we take players GWS wanted to keep? Apart from the SOS connection, they also have friendly faces at Carlton through ex-teammates and will probably...

I don't find him very appealing at all.

Pretty soft player really. Maybe he needed to exercise power at home. I met his grandparents after a Gabba game some years back. They were so proud. I feel for them because of what came after.

Must have heard this at an office meeting in the city.

Bolton isn't gone. Trigg was commuting from Adelaide. That's why he is gone.

I don't believe it for a second. He was the catalyst for bringing the football department and admin together. He and Trigg changed the culture.

Which was in response to a Crows supporter proposes a straight swap Cameron for Lyons. Don't shoot the messenger. Pretty sure I didn't imply all Crows supporters.

Silly is going back 3 weeks to find a throwaway response to a silly Crow supporter post and trying to reignite something. My care factor is quite low.