Enough, you're not even reading.
I'm sure Sam Walsh will be good, but odds are that your post about him being on his way to join the all-time greats is something you'll cringe at in about 12 months when the next hot thing rolls around.
Really don't know what to tell you mate.
Plenty of fans and journalists like Sheehan rated those players in their top 10 over the years. 5 or 6 AAs between them... you just don't remember them as being good. Just watch more footy prior to 2016 if you want to make comparisons.
As for 'showed...
So in the end, we are agreeing that while Walsh has done pretty much nothing, he has a lot of potential.
The extraordinary recency bias in your comments makes me wonder if you watched football 2000-2010. Cooney, Goddard and Deledio were some of the better players during that time. While they...
Walsh is nowhere near breaking into any group of champions. You think that a comparison between Sam Walsh and Andy McGrath is ridiculous, but a comparison between Sam Walsh and Luke Hodge is good. Listen to yourself, you sound like an idiot.
Your point still stands... that Walsh is already mixing it with the likes of Riewoldt and Hodge? Get a life.
And why isn’t my point about McGrath worth comment. This time 2017 he was in the same boat as Walsh is now, and yet somehow he’s not on your list of players destined to be all time...
That is unbelievable. You think on the back of being a number 1 pick and one decent year, that it's already a given that Walsh will outstrip several club captains and brownlow winners?
Don't forget Andy McGrath is also a rising star (who for the record, I still think is a good player).
As we can observe from the Yarran and Pickett situations at the Tigers, indigenous players are actually completely different people, capable of making independent decisions.
The comparisons between these players is not very helpful. I don’t know if he’ll end up at my club, but if Harley Bennell...
Actually he’s a perfect example of a player was given the opportunity, went off the rails. His behaviour had no impact on the club or playing group, who went on to win the flag that year.
That situation is exactly why the Hawks would be confident. Or are you suggesting that he picked up all his...
I've put it out there before, but will reiterate that there are three main factors in the Harley decision:
a) watertight medical team
b) established club culture, mature playing group
c) genuine need for them to take such a risk
Based on this I've reasoned it will be Geelong, Sydney or...
Has a 19yo ever been this good... sorry mate I rate Naughton but this is a joke? Ever heard of Chris Judd? Lance Franklin? Jeremy Cameron? All unarguably better. That’s without going back more than 20 years. If he comes out next year with 60+ and bags 7 in a final then we’ll start talking.
As...
I think this discussion is pretty hypothetical. Trading after all is about filling a need.
GWS for example would give pick 1 in a heartbeat for Gawn or Grundy.
Hawthorn would probably give it up for Whitfield.
Essendon would likely hand it over for Jeremy Cameron.
Bulldogs might think about it...
As I suspected, most fans really seem to have an irrational fascination with pick 1. Historically it just doesn’t yield the best player in the draft class, and often not even close.
Consider all the players listed... only one top pick among them. They are best/most valuable players in the...
I think part of why the number one pick rarely gets traded is that the bottom club is almost always beginning a rebuild... therefore getting elite talent in their prime is pointless.
But I'm one of maybe very few that looks at GC's trade for Lachie Weller as pretty even. It sounds crazy...
As far as I know, no single player has ever been traded in a straight swap for pick 1. It was recently rumoured that Treloar could be on the table for pick 1. It's not going to happen, it seems, but I've often felt that draft picks (even the first) are still an overrated gamble, and that if I...
Don't be a sarcastic SOB. Explain to me why it was weird to include the destination of all free agents in a graph about where free agents are leaving from/going to? DFA's still choose to accept offers, and while a few might have had only singular offers, it's not possible to know which those were.
Wasn't weird to include it. Obviously DFA data is irrelevant in terms of clubs 'losing' players , because the club has delisted them (that's why I don't include DFA's in the 'out' column), but those players' choice of destination is very relevant to this conversation. Players aren't using FA as...
For those who have never bothered to do any research before they form their opinions on complicated subjects, I made a graphic for you.
I've decided to title it:
"The obvious trend of Free Agents leaving struggling and interstate team and going to big, successful Victorian teams"
This is exactly the kind of furphy that persists about FA.
The only recruits Geelong have had through UFA/RFA are Jared Rivers and Scott Selwood. I don't know what your encyclopedia says about 'top quality', but I don't have a picture of either player in mine. People forget that Dangerfield...
One more thing: weren't we all devastated to see clubs treat players like cheap labour back in the 2000s? I remember when fringe players were always being shipped off to facilitate a deal for Fevola or Hall coming to their club. I'm glad that the players got a bit of power back. Of course the...
I really don't understand the noise about free agency. The average draftee is on the list for something like 3 years. Players are only eligible for FA or RFA after EIGHT YEARS of service, and even then there is compensation.
In the last 5 years there have been a yearly average of 4 free agents...
Jesus man you're not getting the point. GC can't do a McCarthy and force him to stay. There is no contract. The AFL would certainly read the situation as unethical and hand them a trade or draft ban.
I don't want you to post again that they could take him in the draft, because they won't - it's...
Do you think they could keep him against his will without suffering some sort of intervention from the AFL? He's not contracted, the Suns are not within their rights to say that they won't let him go. It is unconscionable treatment in terms of trades and contracts, the draft is supposed to be...
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