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Yep, it's a shocker of a deal for the Pies. The only minor justification you could make is that Cox has a fair bit of marketing value and commercial appeal. We saw Eddie take advantage of the COVID situation and push the AFL/Pies into the US market, which over the past year or so has become...

Why is Dustin Martin even being discussed in this thread? Pretty hard to argue he isn't earning his keep. Could probably go the other way and say he is on unders really, depending on who you want compare it to. Love or hate him and/or the Tiges, but nothing wrong with his deal and output.

Well this thread is going down like a lead balloon... Debunked in about 5 posts.

I really worry about these kinds of things being allowed to materialise. The integrity of the draft is already shot to bits, if these kind of instances are allowed to continue it could be a snow ball situation that trends towards the "good ole days" of zoning. Whilst I kind of respect the...

I think there is actually a fair case to make for Adelaide not bidding on JUH at 1. There are so many connotations and pressures that come with being the first pick, far more so than any other selection. For Adelaide's sake, I think I would be calling out one of the other boys and leaving a...

Honestly, if this goes ahead the AFL needs to be looked into. You cannot set parameters and rules of which interested parties make large decisions based upon and operate within, then change them after the fact. There is far too much money and other things at stake for this mickey mouse s**t.

People need to remember he is a young KP player who was always going to take time due to his build and play style. He played like Alistair Lynch in the juniors and was never going to be able to do that early in the AFL. Some players adapt quickly but Schache was never going to be that IMO. Add...

Probably one of the most subjective, ill-defined questions I've read on here. Who a bottom side would trade pick 1 for is vastly different to what other teams would trade it for, with the range opening up significantly the better placed that team is. Given struggling clubs always end up with...

I just disagree that certain players wouldn't benefit from a longer period. I think the period now is far better than what we have had in the past. I have outlined why I think a five day period is unsuitable. Both you and the poster below have raised uncertainty over where some of the fringe /...

Just like students who have a month to finish their assignments, there will always be those submitting them with an hour to spare. So what? In all of those words, you still haven't adequately articulated who benefits from having a shortened trade period. We've done a week. That led to stranded...

Mate, that's well and good for all of the players who had an interest in being traded weeks and months out, but what about the players around the fringe who get thrown up last minute to get deals over the line or when surprise trades come about? There is a litany of examples of deals like this...

What an absolute load of rot. People's lives are literally changed in the trade period; hard decisions around relocations that have massive implications on families that sometimes need to be discussed and made quickly enough as it is occur. This is only compounded when you consider this is the...

So over the top it's not funny. If it was as serious as you disingenuously paint it to be, Kelly would have been happy to play at either WA club or he would retire in order to get his family back home... What does the media have to do with it? Do they have a legitimate say in trades? Talk...

But way overs for who? Geelong's situation is that they are (in their opinion clearly) in their flag window. I've said it before but, the whole idea of draft picks is to get good players. Players that will contribute to your club winning games. Kelly was that in spades and in his first year...

Agreed, obviously it's subjective and you've got a dog in the fight with the Clark situation (actually don't really know what your referring to really) but I would say, IMO that Wells and Geelong have been a very fair club to deal with. When they have wanted players and enticed them, they pay...

Yeah, nah... totally disagree.

Dumb thread given Wells'/Geelong's track record of being very fair to deal with. This is a circumstance where I have no sympathy for the player, if the true goal and priority was to get home and have support for your family then I don't see how it would matter whether if it was WCE or Freo...

Carlton: 10, 16 & 73(2017), 25 (2018) Adelaide: Gibbs, 77 (2017), 19, 37 (2018) You can justify, cut up and manipulate the deal anyway you like; repeatedly posting that SOS 'caved' is ridiculous IMO and a view that only you and a handful of Adelaide posters would share and posture on this...

Plenty of Adelaide posters are posturing about that trade, including yourself. Gibbs is a high output player, but the price paid was high and clearly only agreed upon because it was acceptable for us. We did get two firsts for Gibbs. As part of that trade, we also took an ~6 spot downgrade in...

Not quite right. We got the two first rounders from them last year (10 and 16) and essentially downgraded our 2nd this year for theirs which will probably be 19 to 25. They thought that was going to be a far bigger upgrade given they expected to go deep in finals this year but not to be. The...

I like the idea that the first round of the draft stays pretty much untouched other than changes made by F/S selections and Academy players (despite what you think of academies, they are here to stay). Giving poorly performed teams not only an extra list spot or two for mature talent seems like...

Fraught with danger in doing things like this. We saw what GWS were able to do in manipulating the Mini Draft system. Ended up stockpiling high draft choices at no cost instead of targeting mature players, as was the whole idea. What for instance is to stop Carlton and GC swapping their PP...

A failed pick; won't be the last one we make as a club, such is the nature of the draft. Surely Essendon fans aren't gloating though when they picked up the disinterested, pants shitter that is Langford around the same mark?

I'm glad to at least see some acknowledgement that it isn't perfect or right in it's current state and I do agree about the balance thing, there has to be some reward but at the moment the mix isn't where it should be for my liking. Aware the Riverina has been taken away from GWS, but the...

I appreciate the measured response as well as the great investment the AFL has made in these states, it is clearly paying off and I love the idea that a kid from Newcastle/Airlie Beach/Scone/Toowoomba etc. who may have ended up playing Rugby, Basketball or whatever starts playing our game...

It was more about eliminating things I'd said and inferring that I'm wholly against the academies and a 'classic Vic that doesn't get it' which gets bandied around here a lot as if it's some kind of end all retort. I didn't copy and paste the list, but again thanks for your subtle jabs in...

You've selectively answered bits of my post and omitted others like the parts where I say I like the academies and how they are giving kids in those areas who might not play the game another path and developing them. As for noteworthy players prior to academies from QLD and NSW/ACT... You mean...

You inferred that I was calling for the academies to be closed and people doing so are without 'common sense'. I have outlined how I think the academy system is currently skewed, you quoted me but don't want to address the points I made. Saying "not at all" isn't a very strong rebuttal or...

Nice try at deflecting and attempting to subtly insult me rather than address my post, which you clearly didn't read as I have never 'demanded their closure' but actually said I think they are good but come with currently skewed advantages. Try again.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/gws/gws-rising-star-jacob-hopper-says-academies-provide-prospects-important-pathway-to-the-afl/news-story/07598f03169668d3e2f85073619f782e Whilst the AFL (rightfully) shut down the Riverina plundering, you can only laugh at the posters claiming that...