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I'd like to see Sydney offer 5 + 32 + 2020 1st for Melbourne's 3 and 10. 5 (1878) + 32 (584) = 2462. 3 (2234) + 10 (1395) = 3629 That leaves a 1167 points deficit to be paid for by our 2020 1st. 1167 is about pick 14. In other words, as long as Sydney finish outside the top 4, Dees would end...

Might be OK for us. We've been lacking a key who can take the big forwards, and he seems big enough. We also tend to have a really structured defence, so he might not have to take so many rushed kicks (i hope). Just get it to Lloyd and Dawson by hand, and let them move it on. I'm pretty...

What was the mistake/mistakes he made over and over, just out of interest? Would be nice to know a bit more about what we are getting.

I'd offer 32 and 44 for your 22 if i was Sydney. It gives you guys 101 extra points, and moves us up. Other teams may have better options though, like crows 28 and 37 (gives you 315 points). But crows lost a few players, so may need their picks more than they need to move up (or at least i hope...

After round 4 eh? Why choose that start? He's averaging 1.6 goals per game this season. If you look at the stats, he's actually getting beaten on most important ones by Ben Ronke (goals, disposals, tackles, inside 50's, contested possessions and m gained), but no-one in their right mind has him...

What are you on about? I never mentioned Florent.

Nah, people just get caught up in hype. Jaidyn wouldn't have got votes most rounds, he's had some stinkers. But he's had a run of good games, so all of a sudden he's on top. Pies are due to play some decent teams soon, so we'll get a better idea then.

It's not just about guns though, it's about depth. You need those good, honest players who make up the bottom 8 spots of your best 22, and then the next 6-8 who can come in as cover. You've been up the top for a long time, and your depth has suffered (as intended by the draft system). Now you've...

or jaker (J Aker...)

I point you to a spectacular thread on our board by swansfan51 which will give some good info plus some of his own analysis. https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/kinnear-beatson-vs-the-average-recruiter.1103238/

It's spin. I'm pretty good at maths, and i know what you did. You want to have a grown-up discussion about academies? Cool. You want to play silly games and little number distortions to make your point seem more than it is? Bugger that for a game of soldiers, i've got better things to do that...

And while i appreciate your attempts to downplay how much we actually payed for him, they also remain cold hard facts. By the way, i really like the way you try and "increase the outrage" by using clever accounting to upgrade our 20% discount to 27%. Nice job. We used 1976 points to match a bid...

I feel like most academy critics downplay the fact that to get Mills cost us our first and second rounder plus change, Craig Bird, and the chance to get F/S Dunkley as well (too risky for the amount of points). Instead they will say "Sydney got Mills for a bunch of picks in the 30's", when in...

Makes me sick that you guys stole a number one pick from Brisbane. Swings and roundabouts eh?

Oh, i know this one! You think a bunch of irrational stuff, and no matter how many times people point out how wrong you are with logic and reasoned argument, you just ignore it and keep repeating the same things over and over like you're right anyway? Did i get it?

Might not even have been offered one, or might be waiting until the new CBA is agreed. Can't read much into players putting things on hold with a potential increase in the cap coming up.

I know what the article says. It also links specific TAC clubs to specific AFL clubs. Why would it do this unless they are going to be affiliated with the Academies?

If that's the case, why are clubs like Calder Cannons and Geelong Falcons etc... specifically named in the article and associated with specific clubs?

So... according to the new academy system (assuming the bidding si the same) this is how last year's draft looks: Good work Carlton. You come last, but your first available player is Aaron Francis (pick 5). Unless they allow SA and WA clubs to get them too, in which case you get Jade Gresham...

I suspect Sydney will match bids on Mills with their first pick. ;)

We've delisted Harrison Marsh (brother of Johnathon), Lloyd Perris and Sean McLaren. Apparently we will aim to rookie-draft Marsh. Perris is an interesting one. Very talented inside mid who came through the scholarship program. Has had three knee re-cos, so maybe his body isn't up to it, but...

Swans are in the same boat. Right now we'd get 100 extra points for Mills/Dunkley If we traded our pick 14 for the Crows 28 and 32. Even Essendon's 22 and 44 is a very small points upgrade for us, if we expect both kids to nominate.

So we've signed one of the Irish boys, Colin O'Riordan. Does anyone know his height/weight and any testing results?

Oh my poor bubble. It's all bursted now :( It was tongue-in-cheek, genius. Of course it's his manager.

Jed seems terriffic at shopping himself around. Couldn't get a game at Sydney, got a three year deal rumoured to be over 300 per year to play NEAFL for the Giants, and now off to Carlton. Might even play in the 1sts this time.

You guys are giving him over 300k a year to play NEAFL. Given you need to trim your list, he's a good person to offload and save some cash. I don't think you'd be asking for overs for Jed.

Fixed that for you.

Good value on paper, but i can't see what we'd do with Watts. Just doesn't go in hard enough, or work hard enough. He'd have to buy in to the way Swans play, and he just doesn't seem to have that hardness in him. Great skills, great kick, but just not enough heart, and no defensive mindset. We...

Pfft... we did that, but apparently the maths is too hard for BF and the footy media. Must be COLA.

Yep, he's pretty good. If Malceski and Shaw move on, he's the logical replacement, so i think (hope) we hold on to him.