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I wouldn't waste a rookie spot on him, he's not going to do much at SANFL/VFL/WAFL level, needs to play CHB/FB at AFL level for a season to see if he can make it.

if the reported rejected deal is true the crows seem to be giving up a lot for a 17 yr old, while hawks get a bargin.

getting chronic injuries doesnt extend your career, hes farrrrked.

Really its pretty hard to see how we'd lose him considering we would have a ton of room in the salary cap now and theres no real stars left to go for eg pav, griffen etc.

Your bitterness comes through very strongly.

lol 15+ clearly no idea. The equivalent of that sort of evaluation for one of your players would be saying saying jack riewoldt is worth a 2nd-3rd rounder.

nah you're stuck with him

bock for gibbs

20 is too low, he'd be around the 10-13 type range.

i think collingwood taking into account draft and trade week cant do much better than jolly and ball with your first two picks, sydney appeared to do well also although their picks are more speculative atm.

KP's though?

hooper seems a nice selection you're going for a flag nothing to lose really, i suppose they are happy with Gibson and decided that dont need a 60% matt maguire as well.

craig seems a sellar type player hopefully grows a few cm or becomes a KP

funny how much his stock has fallen imagine a few years ago this happening.

so she could copy his?

Nope didnt watch them in finals ET but dont need to the chances of both rookie picks becoming 200 game key forwards is 0 percent, if even 1 turns into that you should be jumping up and down. As dyertribe has said stock up now while you have the chance (i dont think you will but you should if...

Most want 2 KP and the posters who actually have a good footy opinion want 2 KP with your first 2 picks such is the situation if you're in, if you're in the only draft 1 KP forward group it wouldnt surprise me. Also if you're naive enough to believe 2 Key forward prospects from the rookie list...

hey have you sent that email into 5aa yet about removing your non-existent advertising? (lol) And no your examples are not good ones, but you already know that its why all your board is desperate for you guys to pick 2 KP forwards in the draft.

lol? We'd be going for a midfielder you'd think we've got good KP stocks.

Must be serious as he was actually looking decent this year until he was injured.

if hes any decent port will grab him they literally dont really have any genuine young tall forwards on their list.

yes his kicking is not a problem

hes still s**t though cant kick to save himself

If there wasnt the GC/west sydney entries i would agree but as those teams are coming in they have to plan longer term as well and the guys you mentioned apart from cordy who is untested dont look like being their saviour up forward. s**t time to draft a forward though.

they are in premiership mode so he might be a backup if they get injuries again.

gut feeling is bombers are the big losers

Re: Burguoyne to Hawthorn being a rabble must be hurting you old man

Re: Burguoyne to Hawthorn cant see what williams ---> essendon does for them.

Re: Burguoyne to Hawthorn hawks might regret trading away their 2nd rounder, 9 + 2nd rounder seems fair.

Re: Burguoyne to Hawthorn you should be happy with pick9 i dont know where you're getting the idea hes worth pick 9 + something good.