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And Joel Smith is a better athlete than both of them, what's your point? Oliver is faster than Petracca quite comfortably. How can you say watch games. If you watched games you'd see that Petracca literally hobbles over the field with his awkward running gate. Petracca can't go forward because...

he hasn't had a pre-season and is clearly injured. It's a good thing he's got the runs on the board as a 2 time afl coaches vote winner. Speaks for itself.

Tom Stewart fairly comfortably. Followed by Shai Bolton and Larkey. As a demon fan though, Larkey would be best for us given our lack of key forwards.

Close thread. this was done 3 years ago. Oliver doesnt even need pre-seasons anymore lol. im out

Honestly, I generally agree with you for the majority of players but not for the elite ones. They play by different rules. It's not a backup plan..it's reality and the only way Cripps can beat Oliver in the award. If he's ever to do it, this is the season. For years we've heard Carlton fans'...

Just goes to show you that even when Cripps has poor games, Carlton fans try to find a way think that he is in the coaches votes. If/When Oliver beats Cripps in the coaches votes despite having 0 pre-season and rolling off the coach overweight and unfit it will just be a massive lol. Cripps...

We just watched the game. Why need to refer to a podcast. And considering Lyons and Dunkley were amongst the Lions best, it doesn't bode well either way.

The East Timor comment was pretty funny but cmon, Cripps wasn't exactly Matt Suckling. And if anyone was Macrae it was Cripps. Handballs galore. He never copped attention from Dunkley or Lyon. Just because they are next to them doesn't mean they are being tagged. How do you get 15 handballs and...

WalshistheGOAT Talk about nothing disposals! 1 round down, Oliver gets the chocolates. Cripps 23 touches (mostly handballs) and only 2 tackles and 2 clearances, and 1 goal. He tried hard but no. He was serviceable. Oliver just rolls out of bed and outperforms him.

err yes. have you been living under a rock? what are you talking about? Cripps was a plodder for 5 years with his injury excuses. So why can't Oliver have his? Double standards. Remarkable that Oliver is even out there. But you're never recovering from your 'invisible stats' comment. Extremely...

What did you honestly expect from Oliver? Do you really think Oliver is going to be at his best with 0 pre-season and being aboutv5kg overweight? Like why are you even judging him based off his pre-season? I didn't expect Oliver to be back playing until after the Bye. he's literally done no...

haha, you posted and then you realised 'dayuum'. Once again, proves just how consistent this freak is. Named in the dees best players, despite literally scraping himself off the couch after allegedly doing God knows what for 6 months. Comes out with close to 30 touches. What a ledge! just puts...

what's the connection between Bigfooty posts and skinfolds? I'm actually in great shape, so no idea what you're banging on about. This is the Oliver versus Cripps thread.

Just imagine when Oliver beats Cripps again in the coaches votes again despite having no preseason, being grossly out of shape and simply not even caring about footy. Hilarious. 😂 Still faster than plodder Cripps 😀

I dont disagree regarding Oliver this pre-season which is why it'd be extremely embarassing if Cripps doesn't finally beat Oliver in the Coaches votes. Imagine if he can't beat Oliver who has had a pre-season doing no training and God knows what else and probably won't play the opening couple of...

WalshistheGOAT Care to comment on your Cripps comments last season: "I'm a believer in Dow too but I see him a completely different way. I've watched most of his games in the VFL over the years and in my opinion he's just never going to have the opportunity at Carlton so long as Cripps is...

He doesn't. No more than Petracca. It's not a constant debate. The only debate that dees fans are having is 'Will Oliver go down as the greatest demon of all time'. They're the conversations. And why are you even talking about kicking, Cripps and Oliver have averaged the same disposal...

meaningless stats? like clearances? the guy wins the hard footy. If won meaningless touches I don't think the coaches would rate him as the most impactful player in the game 2 years in a row lol. Dusty and Bont are not as good at winning the contested ball as Oliver. That's just a fact and...

what are you on about...are you referring to the Brownlow or the Coaches votes? I don't value the Brownlow at all. I've maintained that for years. I value the coaches votes extremely highly, so if we're focussing on Neale then each year he has finished high in the award then I tip my hat to...

Neale's a decent player. I value the coaches award much higher than the Brownlow for obvious reasons.

Gawn? lol what the hell. yeah, only 6 time All-Australian. Will probably be AA this year surpassing Dean Cox.

exactly? 2021 and 2022 winner...

Either way it's sliced the 3 demons players in Oliver, Petracca and Gawn all steal votes off each other in every award. Neale and Cripps have had no-one. Walsh, Mccluggage aren't at the same calibre.

I would say the flip side. People obsessed with Cripps simply because he talks well and is 6'5.

More than happy for anyone to post something that shows Clayton Oliver dominating Cripps in the coaches votes again. Regarding Neale, if he was a true gun he would've been AA. I use the coaches votes and the AA together. If Oliver beats Cripps in the Coaches votes yet against despite missing...

the Brownlow...cmon mate. you're better than that :)

i is that why he was trash this year? There's always excuses with cripps. Oliver's shoulders are worse but you don't hear any excuses coming out of dees fans mouths. Remember when Carlton fans last year were like 'Cripps had to ruck 3 contests a game last year and that's why he was so poor'. lol

Oliver doesn't get tagged? You gotta be kidding right? 😳 😂 None of the coaches would take Cripps over Oliver. That's been proven. The coaches had their say. And are yo ureally going to use the brownlow as a metric? if so, that says a lot about you. You're the one cherry picking games. Look...

So Oliver has had a pre-season from hell. Isn't even training with the main group yet, will probably miss half the season and Sportsbet still has Cripps and Oliver as $18 for the Brownlow. lol

lol. no idea what I was on about. meant trac