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Not the case with me. I've already had COVID, multiple studies prove there is no benefit of me getting vaccine - and with the huge amount of misinformation and shifting sands over the last 12 months, I've become very skeptical of what is actually going on (add to that a group of scientists now...

Ok Cheef - sorry :kissingheart:

Did you even read it? “The WHO recommendation resulted from a discussion with a panel of experts who analyzed data from 16 randomized controlled trials involving 2,407 participants[5]. Page 19 of the WHO guideline summarizes the absolute overall effect of ivermectin in terms of mortality...

As an alternative, yes. Given comparable effectiveness, why does that upset you so?

Fine with me - choose to remain ignorant.

Those articles are useless crap - effectively they say “we don’t know enough to say whether IVM should be used for covid.” Yet they ignore the huge amount or evidence there is - because it doesn’t fit the parameters they state. Why won’t you watch the video? Is it AS effective as the vaccines?

Owen - youngest study linked there is 6 months old. Plenty of new evidence since - will provide later today. A lot of words when you could just say; “No, I didn’t watch the video.”

Didn’t watch the video then? Both HCQ and especially ivermectin have proven to be safe and effective. If you can’t acknowledge that based upon the evidence provided, then you’re a lost cause. Which part is the blatant lie? That a widely used over a long period of time medicine, that won a...

Well, it's working in India. What trials are holding it up? It's widely used already, safe and effective. It's got more evidence supporting it than the vaccines. I don't buy those arguments as genuine reasons not to use it - en masse, but especially in a target manner for those at risk.

Thank Christ I'm in Europe.

I've watched his videos every day for over 12 months now - the best unbiased source of information available. Was one of the first to recommend Vitamin D due to clear data that deficiency was a factor in serious infections, and continued to stick with it while it wasn't being highlighted by many...

Great question :D Except this rhetoric is in contradiction to numerous studies showing immunity from an infection/vaccine is long lasting - so not sure why it has any traction. This is interesting. https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/measuring-excess-mortality-australia-during-covid-19-pandemic

There have been lockdowns and restrictions throughout most of the Western world for the last 12 months. Watch this and then give me your thoughts - if you're being genuine. Those Indian states that adopted more aggressive Ivermectin policies saw their cases fall far more than 80%, states...

Odd conclusion for you to draw, given they're effectively saying it should be used. " Real-time data is also available with a meta-analysis of 55 studies to date. As per data available on 16 May 2021, 100% of 36 early treatment and prophylaxis studies report positive effects (96% of all 55...

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41429-021-00430-5

Yes - you know a number of provinces have been using ivermectin which has resulted in huge decreases in daily cases?

Based upon what? It's been widely used for years, what further evidence is required? You realize it’s the primary reason India is getting things back under control?

Initial reports were he was vaccinated, now that he wasn't - will be interesting to see which is true. Regardless, this is still factual; https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/evidence-grows-stronger-covid-vaccine-link-heart-issue-cdc-says-n1270339 Any comment there?

Yes, and opinions should change with it, should they not? Scientific theories are also meant to be tested, peer reviewed, and proven; not thrown out as thought bubbles and then changed a month later, as we've experienced here.

Once again, Ivermectin and HCQ are proven medicines that are effective against COVID - the vaccine isn't necessary. Treat the high risk with it as a preventative measure, use it for those who catch COVID badly, and move on. Also, you can't quote the 3.8 million dead figure in isolation -...

Which science did you trust; given it's changed dozens of times over the last 18 months? How good is virtue signalling? There has also never been a vaccine rushed to market as quickly as this one - you cannot compress time, no matter how many resources you've thrown at it. There has also...

You know there has been a strong hypothesis from a lot of medical/science professionals that COVID is more than just a respiratory disease, right? My feelings on it are clear - but I do also suspect whether there is some truth to this, as potential long term damage would explain the seeming...

Sure 👌🏽 People change - and my political leanings are a hell of a lot different than they used to be.

CryptKeeper was very strong in his opinion here - I don't think my initial comments were directed at you. There is very much a strong push to make it mandatory; either officially, or by pushing and tarring those who don't.

Ok, so Ivermectin or HCQ, are they options for these people? Have many people would fit into this category of having allergies to vaccine ingredients? I think the number of them is relevant, given as they're being used as the justification to force people to take the vaccine if they would...

The Liberal Govt and ScoMo have done * all to assist Australians in getting home; even those with genuine needs - I consider that relevant.

A friend of mine lost her Dad two months ago - she couldn't get home in time for the funeral, and the attempt would've cost her approx $20k AUD. She's also vaccinated. He can get ****ed.

Ok, this is vague and non-specific to the point of irrelevance.

Which 100 people - and why can’t they take HCQ or ivermectin instead?