Past #1: Hamish McIntosh - drafted at pick 9 in '02 ND - traded to Geelong for #36 in '12 trade period

who's the best ruckman

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ArjenTheGreat

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Why trade Hamish? Because for two years he hasn't been a part of the team anyway and we have finally made the finals. He gives us nothing more than we have extra and he in fact a poor centre square ruckman. You have to be bold sometimes to take the next step and again, like last year, I would look at trading Hamish, getting a mature ruckman that is on the outer, and using the trade to bolster the midfield.

Hamish is not Dean Cox! Two ruckman doesn't work! Just because we get rid of a ruckman doesn't mean we can't get another!

Hamish is insurance, but a bloody expensive form of it. Offload Hamish, save some cash, get a player that can be used in the 22 now and charge for glory.


Correctamundo. Finally some sense.

Majak & Goldy are our future. *new addition + Drew and the developing Mabon as back up. Maybe rookie someone as well if you want.

>10% of ones list on ruckmen is just pure lunacy given the fact it's a midfielders sport.

Majak is harder around the contest and superior at centre bounces than Goldy & H. Both of them lack presence.

Pick 15 on it's own would suffice.

I would rather us not use 2 first rounders on Caddy - I would be ultra keen on us drafting 2 quality outside players with Picks 14 & 15. If we were able to snag 2 of Mcrae, Kennedy, Garlett & Simpson - I would be on a semi fat all summer.
 

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Correctamundo. Finally some sense.

Majak & Goldy are our future. *new addition + Drew and the developing Mabon as back up. Maybe rookie someone as well if you want.

>10% of ones list on ruckmen is just pure lunacy given the fact it's a midfielders sport.

Majak is harder around the contest and superior at centre bounces than Goldy & H. Both of them lack presence.
Agree , Agree , Agree
There comes a point where you have to be brave and roll the dice , Collingwood and Hawthorn love grabbing players of us and taking a punt . The improvement in Majak from Wyndhamvale to The Jets to Werribee is very impressive , maybe he is the type that needs a challenge thrown at him . He is 195 cm and with a leap that adds cm's to him and it's not every day you see a guy that chases after his own ruck work .
 

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It is much easier to play two ruckmen when you don't have 3 big KPFs, as one is usually sitting up forward.

I am not unhappy about the second ruckman playing forward, Monster was averaging two goals a game up forward and Goldy was a lot more dangerous up forward than he was when he was playing on his own in the ruck.

We just can't do it when we have Petrie, Hansen and Tarrant up forward. Goldy and Monster have to get used to sharing the load, they are not very good at it atm. Monster needs to be a lot better at hitting to advantage. We need to do a lot of work to improve our stoppage work, especially the defensive work. I lost count of the number of times we conceded easy goals at stoppages in our defensive 50 due to simply woeful setup and defensive execution or when our ruckman hit the ball into the corridor from a defensive 50 stoppage, this should be ruckwork basics.

Realistically, we are only going to trade Monster if he is the one that initiates his desire to leave for more opportunity, if that is the case then it wont matter how many times Teffy makes a supercoach/dreamteam comment.
 

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H for Selwood. Delaney for Pendlebury. Urq for Ablett.

I mean these guys played for North Melbourne, we can't undervalue them. Look at what Gibson, Hale and Leroy Brown have become. We groom Premiership calibre players for other clubs to win Flags with.
 

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If we were offered Steven Motlop for Hamish the trade would be done within five seconds.
Can confirm a Steven Motlop sighting at Arden St..................














...........at a players' BBQ back when Daniel Motlop was about to begin his final year with us. I remember shaking the little bloke's hand when Daniel's mum introduced him (and the rest of the cousins and brothers who were also there that day).
 

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From what I've heard today the plan is to offload Macintosh to make some space in the cap so that we can make a contract play for Goddard.

If we pull it off we'll be laughing.
 

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From what I've heard today the plan is to offload Macintosh to make some space in the cap so that we can make a contract play for Goddard.

If we pull it off we'll be laughing.
Does anyone actually know anything or do people just make crap up constantly - some of the guys on here have more sources then Caroline Wilson.
 
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Provided we wouldn't be asked to pay half of Hank's salary next season.
Regardless of who we get, I think its a given we would have to pay some of Hamish's salary if he was traded.

If we can free up 60-75% of it it would still give the club space to use elsewhere, and in Hale's example if we didn't pay part of it the deal wouldn't have been done EH.
 

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Regardless of who we get, I think its a given we would have to pay some of Hamish's salary if he was traded.

If we can free up 60-75% of it it would still give the club space to use elsewhere, and in Hale's example if we didn't pay part of it the deal wouldn't have been done EH.
why is it a given for us to pay anyones salary that no longer plays for us ? because we were silly enough to do it before and create some kind of precedent,hope not,i am opposed to this scenario
 
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why is it a given for us to pay anyones salary that no longer plays for us ? because we were silly enough to do it before and create some kind of precedent,hope not,i am opposed to this scenario
Because no one would take him at 400+ K muttley, its as simple as that.

I don't like paying other players wages either, but to get a deal done this would be the reality IMO. The club didn't know he would be struck down by injury, so its not like as if the club did anything wrong in the prior contract.
 
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