Player Watch #1 - Jesse Hogan - traded to Freo - #fistedforever

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Then this is where you and i disgress.

A complicating factor or a hard choice? Sure
A mitigating circumstance? Maybe

An excuse? Absolutely not.


The question is not whether that culture drives a compulsion to commit violent crimes of retribution, its about whether we will stand for that as a civilized society. I for one am not going to let the poor treatment of indigenous people cloud the fact that sanctioned, violent retribution is wrong, and should be called out as barbarism, whether its migrant gang violence from the 70s, or this case here.

The theological or cultural beliefs of any group should not be above the law in my view.

Replace indigenous people with some other groups of Australians who have traditionally practised some pretty unsavoury practises, and see if you would be so apologetic or understanding of them.

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I suppose my use of "excuse" was misleading and more accurate ways to describe the background to what happened would be how you put it, either "complicating factor" or "mitigating circumstances".

I, like you, definitely don't think that just because he's indigenous and that's his culture think what he did is alright.

In essence, I agree with everything you mention in this post. My goal was to shed some light on the mitigating circumstances (see what I did there) surrounding Jurrah's fall from grace.
 

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Machete attacks are another one of those peculiar social situations that are difficult for some people to understand, much like determining when to use the dessert spoon, entree knife, soup spoon etc at formal dinner parties.
Or people allegedly hiding behind tribal law as an excuse for incestuous rape of a minor

oops, did i post that?
 

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and Jesse Hogan, the subject of this thread, is not so far as I know indigenous.

While it’s been great hearing so many voices and viewpoints on a range of issues, could I ask that if anyone wants to further debate these matters head off to a general discussion thread where you can prosecute your view to your hearts content. And believe me you can find multiple voices on any side of an issue to really peel back the loose skin of any matter you choose.
 

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Or people allegedly hiding behind tribal law as an excuse for incestuous rape of a minor

oops, did i post that?
Yeah you did. Unless it has some relevance to Hogan though let’s leave it for this thread thanks. There are boards on Bigfooty where you can play out this stuff.
 

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I hope you don’t mind but I’m keen to go to bed, and since no other mods are around I’m locking this one for now given it has truly departed from the topic.

It will get unlocked once I wake up or another mod appears for any further Hogan style discussions
 
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