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Rioli and Dangerfield overrated in the op ?
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Yep that'll be a Norm Smith winner and player thats now gone v close in the Brownlow 2 years running.Rioli and Dangerfield overrated in the op ?
Yep that'll be a Norm Smith winner and player thats now gone v close in the Brownlow 2 years running.
It wouldn't be so embarrassing if they weren't mentioned as no 1 and 2. In the entire league.
1 Travis Cloke
2 Zac Dawson
3 Jack Watts
4 Tom Scully
5 Bryce Gibbs
6 Lindsay Thomas
7 Scott Thimpson (NM)
8 Farren Ray
9 Tyrone Vickery
10 Daniel Rich
No - give me courage and substance over flash. Zaharakis has become impotent in games.
Zaharakis had 200 more possessions (substance) compared to the inferior Ziebell in 2014.
I can clearly see the flash in Zaharakis's game compared to Ziebells with 46 more inside 50s (double) which resulted in double the amount of goal assists.
I wonder if the 16 more contested possessions Ziebell had is the courage of Ziebell?????? as they both were equal in clearances. Maybe it was Ziebells 9 more tackles.
Zaharakis had 100 possessions more than the inferior Ziebell in 2013
The gap is increasing.
If you are happy to keep the inferior player because he does something tough every now and then good luck to you.
Ziebell has had a pretty excellent year as well mate.Gap getting bigger, Zaharakis just hitting his straps.
I would take Ziebell before Zaka so I'm not sure there is a gap at all.Gap getting bigger, Zaharakis just hitting his straps.
You can just call him Norm Smith1. Cyril Rioli
Probably the most over rated footballer I have ever seen. When Buddy went down against Geelong some media outlets and fans were calling for Cyril to be the focus up forward. Had they done that, Sydney would have played Collingwood in the prelim. Is a beautifully skilled footballer but just doesn't get enough of it or kick enough goals. Sometimes you wonder if his name was Jack Smith and he played for Fremantle if he would get the same media attention. My guess is no.
I know, but not as good as Zakas.Ziebell has had a pretty excellent year as well mate.
Pretty much this. It's not a huge gap either way and they aren't even comparable players.Geez.... Zaka has had a great start to the year, but Ziebell is no slouch though.
And in fairness, in the same way I wasn't rushing to the 'Dangerfield is the best player in the game!' party after round one, Zaharakis needs to be consistent for quite a while before I declare he's better than Ziebell.
They're different kinds of players too.
Zaka has 'probably' started the year better - but it's certainly not a massive difference.
Gap getting bigger, Zaharakis just hitting his straps.
You can just call him Norm Smith
1 Travis Cloke
2 Zac Dawson
3 Jack Watts
4 Tom Scully
5 Bryce Gibbs
6 Lindsay Thomas
7 Scott Thimpson (NM)
8 Farren Ray
9 Tyrone Vickery
10 Daniel Rich
So would you still say he is overrated now?5 years ago you flog
So would you still say he is overrated now?
What i'm trying to say is that compared to 2011 and 2015 there is very little difference in his stats so if he was considered overrated then, he must still be considered overrated.I'd say he was overrated then.
What i'm trying to say is that compared to 2011 and 2015 there is very little difference in his stats so if he was considered overrated then, he must still be considered overrated.
Disposal Avg
2011 - 16
2015 - 15
Goals Avg
2011 - 1.52
2015 - 1.75
Yea I definitely agree although tbf his first year for us was amazing. It was a seriously good year for a first year player, then obviously got found out a little in the next couple of years but the importance he has for our team is something else.Yeah fair comment.
Bloke is a gun.
I think some of the hyperbole around him early in his career was a bit much - he's a very good player and has been for some time.