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AFLCA votes are as relevant as the Brownlow imo.
They are 90% weighted to the winning team.
Another salty Richmond supporter starting threads about West Coast lmao. Why not post about Dusty's hilarious inclusion instead.
It's not Nic's fault North are perpetually terrible lmao
Never bothered with AA personally but the OP does have a valid point.
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No s**t.
and I'm not even saying Goldy deserved to be AA.
I'm responding to the insinuation that NN was heads and shoulders above the next ruckman as a second midfielder, which is plain wrong.
Goldy averaged more contested possesions per game, more possessions, more marks.
They both finished top 10 in the league in clearances.
There wasn't much between them - NN was the starting ruck and Goldy didn't even make the squad!
Maybe it's time you start watching footy before you make yourself look any more stupid.
It's a fair comment. I haven't watched too much of north this year so went and looked at the comparison. Effectively similar, although was surprised Goldy has less average hitouts per game with 24% more time on ground, considering he's second on the all time hitout list.
In the key ruckman stats, NN shades him: 58.1% hitout win% to 45.1%, 3% higher hitouts to advantage (NN rates as 'average', Goldy rates as 'below average', although is 3% a significant difference?), but Goldy gets to more hitout contests (probably time on ground).
Just wish the bloke could play a full game, then he would be head and shoulders above the rest.
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Aha...I see clearly now.
Although I only see AA as a token gesture it does however make for tip top debates.
As for Fly’n, great to see our Yamatji boy from the mid-west doing good after a turbulent start.
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Just go check out your troll comments in the Hungry thread and you will realise how stupid you looked. Pot calling kettle black, churr durr.
When you've got blokes being picked out of position just so they can be crammed into the team on reputation, it's refreshing to see someone picked for doing the singular most important aspect of his position better than anyone else.
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People who dont understand how good NN is just baffles my mind. They either have an agenda or really just dont understand footy.
He was clearly the best ruck this year. His influence on games is ridiculous.
For those that dont understand this... well I just cant help you.
He was clearly the best ruck this year. His influence on games is ridiculous.
For those that dont understand this... well I just cant help you.
I remember Gary Dempsey i think he took the most marks in the VFL a staggering nine times, oh it was a different game back then Ruckmen won the Brownlow Medal nearly every year, players held their positions and we had some of the best one on one contests the game has ever seen.
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And football was so much more enjoyable to watch.
The one on one contests of that era were an absolute attraction.
Gary Dempsey one of the all time great ruckmen.
That's been going on for decades. Just fill the team up with midfielders. A classic example was 1991 where Paul Hudson booted 62 goals from a flank, but the positions were given to Gavan Brown (15 goals) and Nicky Winmar (12 goals). If you don't believe me, look it up. Oh, and Hawthorn won the flag that year and not 1 player in the AA team. Let's face it people, it's just a case of people picking their favourites and they don't have to justify it to anyone.
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Everyone focuses on Naitanui's tapwork and that's fair enough. But I think people overlook his follow-up work at centre clearances. Only Cripps and Bontempelli have averaged more centre clearances per game this season. No other ruckman is close.
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There are a few factors at play here. Firstly, opposition teams do not leave Nic on his own. Any Mark is going to be in a contest.
Second he is a contested beast, not an aerobic beast. He is at the contest, not running into space.
Third (more about marking numbers in general) since his knee reconstructions, it has been noticed that he doesn’t fly into the pack like he used to. He tends to stay on the ground and not jump for the mark. Not sure if this is deliberate or psychological?
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I think he meant Luke Ryan which is equally as ridiculous. He’s been Freo’s best player by a mile this year and deserves his spot.
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Or we could talk about his two dubious Norm Smiths...
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Didn’t Gawn get towelled up by NN in round 1?
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