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Heverin just Confirmed Gerard Whateley will be at the Super Bowl , with Hutchy no doubt , so looks like his Sen show will start in the US on the 29th Jan the start of Super Bowl week
Don’t think Hutch realises just because he is obsessed with something every one else will be.

He’s going down path to cut his listeners down
 

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Targeting younger demographic? I think not.

Having two of the oldest living blokes on earth hosting the DRIVE SLOT is the least obvious target at a younger demographic I've seen; especially when the drive slot is the most popular part of the day for lazy youngsters who sleep late, wake up late and thus don't listen to the breakfast slot. I would know, I'm in this bracket.

Young people wouldn't have a clue who Dr. Turf is. He's from a previous generation and comes from a sport (horse racing) which isn't amongst the "new age" of sport in Australia (ie. EPL, NBA, NFL and obviously still footy and cricket). As far as KB is concerned, every footy fan in Victoria knows who he is but people under 35 won't be tearing to their radios to hear some gas-bagging old white man's opinions.

No, putting KB and Dr. Turf in the drive slot is the furthest thing from aiming at young people. This is purposely aiming at older people, because old people still listen to AM radio and still have time for guys like KB and Turfy because they're familiar with them. The young generation listen to FM radio, Billy Brownless and JB (who, imo, own the young sport radio demographic) or are listening to podcasts.

I'm in my 20s and have spent the last three days at the Aus Open. In that time, wondering through the maze of outside courts, I had my headphones in my ears and was listening to a variety of sports podcasts. Not once did I even consider to flick on SEN to get sports updates/discussion.
NBA, NFL have been "new age" sports in Australia since I was a kid in the late 70s / early 80s. Maybe you need to catch up.

Magic, Kareem, Larry Bird, Dr J, Barkley, Olajuwon, Worthy, Wilkins, Isiah Thomas, Jordan, Moses Malone.

Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Roger Craig, Lawrence Taylor, Art Monk, Walter Payton, Ronnie Lott, Reggie White, Howie Long, Tony Dorsett, John Hannah, John Elway, Munoz,
 

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NBA, NFL have been "new age" sports in Australia since I was a kid in the late 70s / early 80s. Maybe you need to catch up.

Magic, Kareem, Larry Bird, Dr J, Barkley, Olajuwon, Worthy, Wilkins, Isiah Thomas, Jordan, Moses Malone.

Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Roger Craig, Lawrence Taylor, Art Monk, Walter Payton, Ronnie Lott, Reggie White, Howie Long, Tony Dorsett, John Hannah, John Elway, Munoz,
Only issue is too much emphasis on these sports can only hurt a core audience established that might like small doses of us sports.
 

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Don’t think Hutch realises just because he is obsessed with something every one else will be.

He’s going down path to cut his listeners down
And I don't think you realise that just because you don't like something doesn't mean nobody else does.

The super bowl is huge, and NFL is only growing in Australia. This is a good move on his part
 

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And I don't think you realise that just because you don't like something doesn't mean nobody else does.

The super bowl is huge, and NFL is only growing in Australia. This is a good move on his part
Perhaps a re-read is required.
Or perhaps I need a re-write.

All the other sports including American sports are fine. If done in smaller doses.
If any of these smaller sports are over worked I think they'll lose audiences over all.

Just my two cents worth.

Some good.
Lots not so good.
 
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I don’t mind Lyon and Watson but they’re example of why Australian sports coverage lags behind American.

The Yanks can easily cover numerous sports and cover a sport as if they’ve been doing it for years. They have researchers that gather the info but just as important they make some effort to watch other sports as well.

If you’re hosting a prime time morning sports show why wouldn’t take the time to watch a number of other sports? Lyon and Watson just don’t bother. Producers and back up crew don’t bother either. That’s the whole problem with SEN in the past.

I mean the other morning it’s like they ran out of material at 7.30 and invited listeners to call and try and pick the next Liam Jones/?Townsend(tiger guy) i.e this years surprise. FFS it’s mid January!
All true. Lyon and Watson have returned in 2018 with the same apparent “part time” attitude to major sports coverage. Surprising really considerering what happened to Ox and Allen. Having little work ethic rarely works out well career wise.
 

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Perhaps a re-read is required.
Or perhaps I need a re-write.

All the other sports including American sports are fine. If done in smaller doses.
If any of these smaller sports are over worked I think they'll lose audiences over all.

Just my two cents worth.

Some good.
Lots not so good.
Do you really think that apart from super bowl week, there's going to be a huge focus on American sports? Do you think KB, or Gary, or Andy Maher, are going to focus much more on American sports?

It's one week when nothing else is happening.
 

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Do you really think that apart from super bowl week, there's going to be a huge focus on American sports? Do you think KB, or Gary, or Andy Maher, are going to focus much more on American sports?

It's one week when nothing else is happening.
I don't know what knobs like chief Crock will do.

You might be right.
 
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Do you really think that apart from super bowl week, there's going to be a huge focus on American sports? Do you think KB, or Gary, or Andy Maher, are going to focus much more on American sports?

It's one week when nothing else is happening.
Ignoring American sport would be a pretty silly thing to do on an all sports network. I know a lot of people in the SEN demographic who are big fans of the NFL and the NBA. In the AFL off-season these competitions are all important for a lot of the hard corers.
 
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I think the problem is when it comes to covering other sports on SEN (or Sportsday - a Crocmedia production) is not the on-air talent - we don't expect them to know everything about every sport - but the producers putting the program together.

It's not just their job to push the buttons, and line up the interviews, but also to adequately brief the on-air talent about who they are talking to, what that guest's background is, and key dot points about the issue they are talking about.

Unfortunately, sometimes you find big money being paid out for the on-air talent, but peanuts for the producers, thus you get the 'straight out of uni/radio school' talent, who a very green, and that results in a poor on-air product.
 

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Generally good on air talent will have a good producer as part of the package in getting them.

Fair to say that to this point - SEN has been a development role for “talent” with Leach and KB excepted. Better and more experienced talent being recruited may well see better production.
 

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I think the problem is when it comes to covering other sports on SEN (or Sportsday - a Crocmedia production) is not the on-air talent - we don't expect them to know everything about every sport - but the producers putting the program together.

It's not just their job to push the buttons, and line up the interviews, but also to adequately brief the on-air talent about who they are talking to, what that guest's background is, and key dot points about the issue they are talking about.

Unfortunately, sometimes you find big money being paid out for the on-air talent, but peanuts for the producers, thus you get the 'straight out of uni/radio school' talent, who a very green, and that results in a poor on-air product.
Producers definitely do this. It's quite obvious. If you ever hear Gerard Healy interview a soccer or rugby player on Sportsday, he generally asks questions that are topical and has relevant information on hand. Gerard knows bugger all about sport outside of AFL, so to me it's evident he's been briefed beforehand.

Where producers do need to improve is in extra content. A host and their co-host can have a discussion on a certain topic and, yes, producers organise interviews, but what do we hear outside of that? To me, very little. This is where radio becomes boring. You can only have so many interviews and so many "outlandish" comments to provoke talkback throughout a show. There needs to be something different.

This is where Finey's program excelled. Despite whatever one's thoughts are on Mark Fine, his program was abundant with variety and made for good listening. Finey's downfall was many of these segments had run their race years ago and had become cringey. He needed a refresher. People got tired of listening about numbers and letters in sport.
 

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This is where Finey's program excelled. Despite whatever one's thoughts are on Mark Fine, his program was abundant with variety and made for good listening. Finey's downfall was many of these segments had run their race years ago and had become cringey. He needed a refresher. People got tired of listening about numbers and letters in sport.
You've partially answered in the last sentence. But that's only one hour of the week. It's not enough to get rid of him. What else had gone stale?
 
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You've partially answered in the last sentence. But that's only one hour of the week. It's not enough to get rid of him. What else had gone stale?
It seems Finey wasn't in the future plans because Hutch in his own words wants to be a serious player broadcasting "live sport" on weeknights.

What sport/s is out there that a sen listener is suddenly going to tune into ?

Local pub darts ? Lawn bowls night comps ?


And when they don't have live sports , Who are the new regular weekly guests that Heverin will get for his shows , will the listeners like them ?
 

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Producers definitely do this. It's quite obvious. If you ever hear Gerard Healy interview a soccer or rugby player on Sportsday, he generally asks questions that are topical and has relevant information on hand. Gerard knows bugger all about sport outside of AFL, so to me it's evident he's been briefed beforehand.

Where producers do need to improve is in extra content. A host and their co-host can have a discussion on a certain topic and, yes, producers organise interviews, but what do we hear outside of that? To me, very little. This is where radio becomes boring. You can only have so many interviews and so many "outlandish" comments to provoke talkback throughout a show. There needs to be something different.

This is where Finey's program excelled. Despite whatever one's thoughts are on Mark Fine, his program was abundant with variety and made for good listening. Finey's downfall was many of these segments had run their race years ago and had become cringey. He needed a refresher. People got tired of listening about numbers and letters in sport.
Fine had one thing ahead of most presenters. Excellent knowledge of a variety of sports- to his credit.

He also researched eg made sure he watched every single game every week.
Bet you most don’t do that.
Be lucky if Mark Allen ever watched more than Collingwood games. He never came close in any other sport to duplicate his golf knowledge which means he just didn’t bother researching. Even his footy knowledge was sparse.

Fine knew football, cricket, greyhounds, Racing, soccer, golf etc.
That’s a credit to him.
 

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You've partially answered in the last sentence. But that's only one hour of the week. It's not enough to get rid of him. What else had gone stale?
Agree.
See post above.

I really liked the numbers type shows. Was all about recalling past things. Milne was encyclopaedic. If anything I’d have lessened the “regular callers” on those shows. Except the Duke, john is 90 plus and did super well each week.
But some of the others were a bit stale like Polly. He did the racing bit, but it was ok but when he was asked outside of his stated stuff he didn’t have the in-depth knowledge at times.
But we’re good segments the whole show.

A bit silly moving Fine on. Doubt the new guy has a segment on addiction. That was a gutsy thing to do.
 

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I thought that to, prior to the post, and when hearing Hutchy say it yesterday. That's alright maybe during summer. But what is there Monday/Thurs during winter?
Even covering niche market leagues like the NBL and A-League can’t bring in that many listeners can it? I would be surprised if they rated higher than what Finey would usually rate, not withstanding the f bomb c bomb that we were treated to during an NBL game a month or so ago:D

EON sport tried that strategy and it failed badly.

Most people who follow those niche sports like myself will be watching it on the TV and as digital radio takes over from analogue more and more, the delay makes listening to it while you are at the game pointless. Even with AFL, the only time I listen while I’m at the game is via MMM on the FM radio on my phone, as the delay with digital makes it useless.
 
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