eth-dog
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Because there were points I disagreed with. Catch up, will you?
Sorry, I thought you said that he failed when he was in the AFL.
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Retired #12: Mark Baguley - Will retire at seasons end - 27/8
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Killer_Mike
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I personally think that small defenders are incredibly valuable and hard to find good ones. I think it's a problem area with a succession plan that may not work out.
Heaven forbid we get another Slattery.
Heaven forbid we get another Slattery.
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I'm intrigued. Do you do this much?
Killer_Mike
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Based on your mid year review I stand to be corrected!
My apologies, McNiece has had a better year than Baguley.
12. Mark Baguley
AFL Games: 12
Relevant averages: 2.2 tackles, 3.8 1%ers, 2.6 rebound 50's
Overall Grade: C
Baguley has had an average season so far. I know a few will disagree with this but with 3 poor games and 3 good games and 6 in between it means an average season. He's intercepting the ball better than before but his opponents have gotten off the leash a few times, like Betts and Elliott.
41. Ben McNiece
AFL Games: 2
Relevant averages: 2.5 tackles, 2.5 rebound 50's, 3.5 1%ers
Overall Grade: C+
McNiece has exceeded expectations so far this season, being a general in defence and shutting down a couple of good small forwards in his couple of AFL games. Look for him to step up in the best 22 next year.
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You obviously aren't a VFL watcher.
eth-dog
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Look at the top of the page. The part where I said it was relative to expectations.
Killer_Mike
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But you don't rate Baguley....
eth-dog
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At the start of the year I did. Then he started playing poorly
Killer_Mike
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Your hatchet job on skipworth and praising of McKenna makes more sense than the rubbish you are talking in here.
eth-dog
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Are you so desperate to make out you won this to include something completely irrelevant to it
Killer_Mike
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Win?
Irrelevant?
All it was was a simple comment on our lack of proven small defenders and you have just argued semantics the whole time.
I still don't know if you think it's a concern or not! Not that I care for your opinion.
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As he's developed his foot skills have improved out of sight but his defensive game has suffered. He's a different player to the one we drafted, to the point where I'd now class him as an 'attacking defender' rather than someone who's really dour.
He's going to be really important if and when Kelly retires, keeping in mind that he's 30 already, he's going to have to be the steadying influence.
eth-dog
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I asked a question about something that I disagreed with and you come out all shirty, posted something unrelated, I post a rebuttal to that point and then you just bring up something completely irrelevant. As I said earlier, should talk about the points I don't care about?
Killer_Mike
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I will try to make this simple for you.
(a) Do you think that McNiece is Bags replacement?
(b) If no, do you have somebody else in mind?
If yes to first question then I will stop worrying about it.
If the answer to both of those questions is no then I suspect we may need to draft one.
Killer_Mike
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I actually thought it was a fair question. Appreciate your support though.
Killer_Mike
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He's making a simple question far harder than it should be.
I question why he would answer it if he's not interested in giving an actual answer.
eth-dog
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I think he could be. He exceeded my expectations so far this year. Can you answer this question:
Why do you think McNiece isn't close checking?
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Who the hell is McNiece?
Killer_Mike
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Exactly!
We don't have an abundance of small defenders. That was the only point I was making.
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Anyway, as for Baguley.
I really rate his intercept work, and I think he's still great for the little onepercenters. Where he gets in trouble is when the ball comes in quickly into the forward line, especially when he's one out.
His intercept work last week was good, but he did look pedestrian a couple of times also. Mind you, one of Fasolo's goals should have been a push in the back.
I really rate his intercept work, and I think he's still great for the little onepercenters. Where he gets in trouble is when the ball comes in quickly into the forward line, especially when he's one out.
His intercept work last week was good, but he did look pedestrian a couple of times also. Mind you, one of Fasolo's goals should have been a push in the back.
Killer_Mike
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The reason he was getting caught out on the weekend was because the ball was getting turned over in midfield after exiting defence and he was isolated in 50 with a small defender. It happened twice right in front of me and their was little he could do.
The attack from defence game plan is always going to catch people out when you turn it over so cheaply.
