Player Watch #13 Clayton Oliver - 2018 ALL AUSTRALIAN

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Actually makes alot of sense, kid hardly marked it above his head this year despite being played forward. I wonder if this is gonna be the next step to making him more Judd like
 

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Looking at the names which finished on the same amount of votes on Oliver was genuine disgusting. Kelly/JOM need to get more actual footy, Ward just not in the same realm
Callan Ward is a bloody good player, does not get the respect he deserves.
 

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It's easier to just say 'I don't watch this team' as opposed to taking a guess
Actually feel like you’re the one who doesn’t watch the Giants. He cannot go forward. And Clarry a far better accumulator. The only thing Ward has on him is he kicks it more and that’s a classic 70 year old grandma comment.

He’s a great leader off the field for the giants and he’s incredibly courageous. But that guy isn’t a top 10 midfielder. The fact that he’s the best inside midfielder at the Giants is so damning on their midfield. It’s got some fancy names so people assume it’s elite. Giants midfield group right now wouldn’t even be top 5. Cal’s still who they rely on when they need to get it done, and thats why that team, along with Cameron’s love fest for Patton/Lobb/Cameron/Mumford or Simpson in one side hasn’t gotten past a prelim final.

Given our team’s success I shouldn’t be using their lack of premierships against Cal, but that teams ceiling is how good Kelly can become inside. Cal is just a taller and therefore stronger Nate Jones really; you’re not going to get over the hump with him as your best inside mid. Actually tell me one thing he can do that Cunnington cannot. Maybe you can say the same about Clarry right now based off the west coast game, but right now he’s still a better option as a forward and hes a better accumulator. If not already he will be on another level to Ward very very soon.
 
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Actually feel like you’re the one who doesn’t watch the Giants. He cannot go forward. And Clarry a far better accumulator. The only thing Ward has on him is he kicks it more and that’s a classic 70 year old grandma comment.

He’s a great leader off the field for the giants and he’s incredibly courageous. But that guy isn’t a top 10 midfielder. The fact that he’s the best inside midfielder at the Giants is so damning on their midfield. It’s got some fancy names so people assume it’s elite. Giants midfield group right now wouldn’t even be top 5. Cal’s still who they rely on when they need to get it done, and thats why that team, along with Cameron’s love fest for Patton/Lobb/Cameron/Mumford or Simpson in one side hasn’t gotten past a prelim final.

Given our team’s success I shouldn’t be using their lack of premierships against Cal, but that teams ceiling is how good Kelly can become inside. Cal is just a taller and therefore stronger Nate Jones really; you’re not going to get over the hump with him as your best inside mid. Actually tell me one thing he can do that Cunnington cannot. Maybe you can say the same about Clarry right now based off the west coast game, but right now he’s still a better option as a forward and hes a better accumulator. If not already he will be on another level to Ward very very soon.
27 disposal average for Ward and 29 for Oliver. Oliver will probably get more again Next year but he's isn't a much better accumulator right now.
Kelly's not an inside midfielder, he's an outside bloke who receives it from guys like Ward.

The top tier of midfielders in the league are the blokes like Martin/Danger/Fyfe etc who could essentially play any position on the ground.
Cripps De Goey and Oliver Yeo are the next in line. Then there's a group of mids just below that who are still bloody good players like Sidebottom Selwood Viney Ward Treloar Shuey etc. You don't need to talk them down to pump up the ones above them
 
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