Player Watch #13 Clayton Oliver – UNPRECEDENTED 4 x B&F, 3 x AA, 2 x AFLCA Winner and Premiership Player

[Gysberts2Bate]

And eventually a Brownlow

Only when Gawn has stopped winning them.

 

[Cold Sober]

Only when Gawn has stopped winning them.

I think Mitchell will win it, in saying that Gawn, Oliver and Grundy in a 4 way tie would sit ok.

 

[Scythe94]

I love him.

 

[Demonkings]

I love him.

He is so confident, he backs himself in any and all situations. It is not something you can fake, or teach. He is a great footballer and he knows it. And he plays for us. What’s not to love?

 

[Scythe94]

 

[CWaffles]

Is this a gag or genuine?

 

[Scythe94]

Is this a gag or genuine?

Genuine - article on the AFL website.

 

[CWaffles]

Genuine - article on the AFL website.

Double shoulder recos would suck.

 

[LeverPuller]

Sounds like he played literally half the season with stuffed shoulders and was still AA.

 

[qarocks]

I couldn't believe this when I saw it. The guy is 21!

How will his shoulders be when he is 31, let alone 61.

Maybe I am getting old (im 33), but jeez, pretty brutal for a 21 yo kid.

 

[Tulip]

Change title to Equal 23rd in Brownlow please

 

[Xhoquelin]

Change title to Equal 23rd in Brownlow please

Looking at the names which finished on the same amount of votes on Oliver was genuine disgusting. Kelly/JOM need to get more actual footy, Ward just not in the same realm

 

[Topkent]

Actually makes alot of sense, kid hardly marked it above his head this year despite being played forward. I wonder if this is gonna be the next step to making him more Judd like

 

[Topkent]

Looking at the names which finished on the same amount of votes on Oliver was genuine disgusting. Kelly/JOM need to get more actual footy, Ward just not in the same realm

Callan Ward is a bloody good player, does not get the respect he deserves.

 

[Fork n Hell]

Callan Ward is a bloody good player, does not get the respect he deserves.

any bloke with the nickname 'Cement Head' has my vote of approval.

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

Callan Ward is a bloody good player, does not get the respect he deserves.

Yeah lol Ward is an out and out gun

 

[Topkent]

Yeah lol Ward is an out and out gun

It's easier to just say 'I don't watch this team' as opposed to taking a guess

 

[Xhoquelin]

It's easier to just say 'I don't watch this team' as opposed to taking a guess

Actually feel like you’re the one who doesn’t watch the Giants. He cannot go forward. And Clarry a far better accumulator. The only thing Ward has on him is he kicks it more and that’s a classic 70 year old grandma comment.

He’s a great leader off the field for the giants and he’s incredibly courageous. But that guy isn’t a top 10 midfielder. The fact that he’s the best inside midfielder at the Giants is so damning on their midfield. It’s got some fancy names so people assume it’s elite. Giants midfield group right now wouldn’t even be top 5. Cal’s still who they rely on when they need to get it done, and thats why that team, along with Cameron’s love fest for Patton/Lobb/Cameron/Mumford or Simpson in one side hasn’t gotten past a prelim final.

Given our team’s success I shouldn’t be using their lack of premierships against Cal, but that teams ceiling is how good Kelly can become inside. Cal is just a taller and therefore stronger Nate Jones really; you’re not going to get over the hump with him as your best inside mid. Actually tell me one thing he can do that Cunnington cannot. Maybe you can say the same about Clarry right now based off the west coast game, but right now he’s still a better option as a forward and hes a better accumulator. If not already he will be on another level to Ward very very soon.

 

[Topkent]

Actually feel like you’re the one who doesn’t watch the Giants. He cannot go forward. And Clarry a far better accumulator. The only thing Ward has on him is he kicks it more and that’s a classic 70 year old grandma comment.

He’s a great leader off the field for the giants and he’s incredibly courageous. But that guy isn’t a top 10 midfielder. The fact that he’s the best inside midfielder at the Giants is so damning on their midfield. It’s got some fancy names so people assume it’s elite. Giants midfield group right now wouldn’t even be top 5. Cal’s still who they rely on when they need to get it done, and thats why that team, along with Cameron’s love fest for Patton/Lobb/Cameron/Mumford or Simpson in one side hasn’t gotten past a prelim final.

Given our team’s success I shouldn’t be using their lack of premierships against Cal, but that teams ceiling is how good Kelly can become inside. Cal is just a taller and therefore stronger Nate Jones really; you’re not going to get over the hump with him as your best inside mid. Actually tell me one thing he can do that Cunnington cannot. Maybe you can say the same about Clarry right now based off the west coast game, but right now he’s still a better option as a forward and hes a better accumulator. If not already he will be on another level to Ward very very soon.

27 disposal average for Ward and 29 for Oliver. Oliver will probably get more again Next year but he's isn't a much better accumulator right now.
Kelly's not an inside midfielder, he's an outside bloke who receives it from guys like Ward.

The top tier of midfielders in the league are the blokes like Martin/Danger/Fyfe etc who could essentially play any position on the ground.
Cripps De Goey and Oliver Yeo are the next in line. Then there's a group of mids just below that who are still bloody good players like Sidebottom Selwood Viney Ward Treloar Shuey etc. You don't need to talk them down to pump up the ones above them

 

[Engimal v3]

I though he was a fair chance for top 10 this year. Can't believe he didn't make top 20!

 

[pjfairbairn]

Are there any good examples of young mids robbed in the Brownlow early in their career, only to come back and win it in the years following?

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

Are there any good examples of young mids robbed in the Brownlow early in their career, only to come back and win it in the years following?

Angus Brayshaw

 

[TheDarkDwarf]

Are there any good examples of young mids robbed in the Brownlow early in their career, only to come back and win it in the years following?

TheDarkDwarf.

 

[Proper Gander]

Change title to Equal 23rd in Brownlow please

No way. In my mind he won it.

 

[harry000]

Just saw on social media that Clarry did 100 x 100m sprints on christmas day!